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2010-01-29, 4:17pm
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There were 5 purchases total that day. She came off as being a new lampworker, one of the things she bought was a beginners kit. So I guess she needed all those tutorials to go along with her new torch,
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2010-01-29, 4:17pm
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Here is the info from the Jasper County (where this is) Sherrif's office.
This is not a petty thing. This is thousands of dollars.
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Jasper County Sheriff's Office
2907 County Road 180
Carthage, MO 64836
Jasper County Detention Center
405 East 5th Street
Carthage, MO 64836
Phones: (417)358-8177 & (417) 624-1601
Fax: (417)627-0993
Call in a tip: (417)781-TIPS (8477)
Send us a tip: tips@jaspercountysheriff.org
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2010-01-29, 4:18pm
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My heart goes out to all who have been stolen from. Morons like that shouldn't be allowed in LE or in the glass world.
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2010-01-29, 4:18pm
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Oh, sorry Debbie. Bah.
I just sent Brent Curran a message on facebook:
Maybe you want to go here and clear some stuff up.
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...87#post2863387
There are some folks named Cheryl Curran and Ron Smith who are ripping off a lot of people in a tight-knit community. Or their identities have been stolen. Either way, as the Police Chief and with both listed as friends of yours here I hope you'd help some small business owners who really are taking some beatings financially with whatever this scam is. Help us get to the bottom of it?!
On another note, check out Ron Smith's pages listed. If the monetary issues were resolved it would be HUMOROUS.
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=...p?id=609636057
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2010-01-29, 4:18pm
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Jamey, who did you speak to in that town??
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I did not get his name, but he was the only one there in the office. I get the impression it is a really small town. He pretty much blew me off saying I needed to file a report here in my town. Did that, but the police officer here told me I needed to file a report down there. Would that be ironic if I spoke with the man himself?
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2010-01-29, 4:22pm
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call back. Ask for a supervisor. keep repeating the dollar figure they of what they stole from you.
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2010-01-29, 4:23pm
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Jamey Lynn, I just PM'd you
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2010-01-29, 4:23pm
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Jamey Lynn, did you call these numbers?
Sarcoxie City Police Department
113 6th Street, Sarcoxie - (417) 548-3500
Sarcoxie Police Department
111 North 6th Street, Sarcoxie - (417) 548-7242
I'd flat out ask for Brent Curran and ask if he knows these people.
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2010-01-29, 4:25pm
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It was recommended to me from someone in the area to call the jasper county sheriff.
Contact Information
Jasper County Sheriff's Office
2907 County Road 180
Carthage, MO 64836
Jasper County Detention Center
405 East 5th Street
Carthage, MO 64836
Phones: (417)358-8177 & (417) 624-1601
Fax: (417)627-0993
Call in a tip: (417)781-TIPS (8477)
Send us a tip: tips@jaspercountysheriff.org
Anyone involved, call them and point them here if you have to.
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2010-01-29, 4:26pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JameyLynn
I did not get his name, but he was the only one there in the office. I get the impression it is a really small town. He pretty much blew me off saying I needed to file a report here in my town. Did that, but the police officer here told me I needed to file a report down there. Would that be ironic if I spoke with the man himself?
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You need to call back your own pd and explain to them that they will not take a report in the other town. You might print out the article someone posted and the face book connections when you do and email them.
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2010-01-29, 4:33pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tgslampwork
Jamey Lynn, did you call these numbers?
Sarcoxie City Police Department
113 6th Street, Sarcoxie - (417) 548-3500
Sarcoxie Police Department
111 North 6th Street, Sarcoxie - (417) 548-7242
I'd flat out ask for Brent Curran and ask if he knows these people.
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the 417-548-3500 is the number I called today.
I will call the jasper county number tomorrow.
My head hurts to much tonight!
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2010-01-29, 4:46pm
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I think this thread needs to be moved somewhere where it will get seen by more people.
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2010-01-29, 4:50pm
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Oh NO, Jamey!!!! This is horrible!! I feel awful for all of you that got hit by this POS. Paypal stinks!!!
I hope most of you realize that this person doesn't really need tutorials, or glass, or anything to do with lampwork. They are stealing your money. Somehow they got on our little planet Glass World and found a way to steal from this community through Paypal chargeback scamming.
We had better hope it doesn't become a popular trend, because good luck with PP doing anything more than they already do to protect us sellers.
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2010-01-29, 4:55pm
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2010-01-29, 4:58pm
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Quote:
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I think this thread needs to be moved somewhere where it will get seen by more people.
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Jamey, there is a link to this thread in the Legal Room -- people will be directed to this thread. I'm sorry you're being put through this.
J.
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2010-01-29, 5:11pm
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Can you contact your local states attorneys office or the states attorneys office in the town the person is from?
What about your local news station? I know that in Chicago here people call Dave Savini (sp) who is on one of the big networks.....he digs into all of this stuff. Maybe a local reporter in your area can assist you.
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2010-01-29, 6:27pm
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Hey. I just posted to the thread in the potty. Not sure if I should repost it here cuz I don't want to give them any "excuses" just in case (you'll see what I mean when you read it). If someone wants to repost it here or in the legal room thread, please
feel free (& do me a favor) only because I may not be around for the night. I do hope to check back though.
Also, there's a request in there from me to help any one here with paypal or eBay questions whenever they feel the need. So please take a peek. It's on page 7.
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2010-01-29, 7:26pm
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Oh I just love that "Ron" has a link to Joyce Meyer Ministries on his FB! I just love these pseudo Christians, ripping off the little people!
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I posted this in bathroom but thought it should also be here----
You might also want to contact the Jasper County Prosecuting Attorney. He is:
Dean Dankelson
Jasper County Courts Bldg.
601 Pearl, Suite 100
Joplin, MO 64801
417-625-4314
They handle bad checks.
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2010-01-29, 7:59pm
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I don't know what to say, I am new to the sales game and didn't realize this type of thing could even happen.
Sorry to hear so many of you have been hit.
((((((hugs to my friend Jamey Lynn and the rest of you)))))))))))
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Quote:
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Oh I just love that "Ron" has a link to Joyce Meyer Ministries on his FB! I just love these pseudo Christians, ripping off the little people!
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yes, some people use Christianity as a cloak for their unrighteousness.
they will get what is coming to them sooner or later for that and everything else they do.
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2010-01-29, 8:26pm
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What a freakin scumbag, whomever it is.
I think you guys should all write letters to the editor and try mail them so that they reach the newspaper all within the same day or two. If it isn't picked up for comment, reprint and repeat ... as many times as necessary.
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Oh, Jamey, that's horrible! I'm sorry you took such a hit, and I'm sorry for everyone else who has been damaged by this scumbag masquerading as a human being.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m_rivkah
What a freakin scumbag, whomever it is.
I think you guys should all write letters to the editor and try mail them so that they reach the newspaper all within the same day or two. If it isn't picked up for comment, reprint and repeat ... as many times as necessary.
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Also contact this number..often
Contact Information
Jasper County Sheriff's Office
2907 County Road 180
Carthage, MO 64836
Jasper County Detention Center
405 East 5th Street
Carthage, MO 64836
Phones: (417)358-8177 & (417) 624-1601
Fax: (417)627-0993
Call in a tip: (417)781-TIPS (8477)
Send us a tip: tips@jaspercountysheriff.org
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And here:
http://www.ky3.com/
417-268-3000
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I'm really sorry, too, Jamey and everyone else. It's heart wrenching.
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I'm really sorry too! This is awful!
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Jamey, my heart goes out to you (and the others).
I think there is a way to set up your Paypal NOT to allow any e-checks of any kind. Many power sellers on ebay seems to have very limited payment sources when it come to Paypal.
REALLY SUCKS!
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2010-01-30, 5:25am
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This is just horrible to think people have no conscience...otherwise they wouldn't do this sort of thing.
I was trying to research legal information for you guys. I know that when the postal service is involved and the amount of fraud is over $500. This becomes a federal offense. I was unable to locate info on whether it would still be federal if all of you collectively added up to $500 instead of one incident.
I would definitely contact a lawyer...a 15 minute consultation would tell you what you need to know and get you started in the right direction. CROSS YOUR "T'S" AND DOT YOUR "I'S" and make sure you are doing everything right just in case you are able to take this sorry sack of *&%^ to court! Legalities...
Take care and good luck to you all.
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2010-01-30, 6:22am
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tut
well, I just got an order for another tutorial, and I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing and punish everyone else for this one cluster of people's sins, but I hate that it makes me wary now of everyone's purchases.
I am traumatized that people do this sort of thing, and deeply disturbed that paypal is so quick to take back what they shouldn't have given, and then not lift a finger to do anything to the people who entered into a contract to pay but didn't actually pay.
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