Zephyr 12mm

[Ravenesque]

Any input on the bigger diameter? Zephyr seems so soft, I wonder if it's a pita to use? (104 marbles, implosions etc)

[istandalone24/7]

only that the 12mm seconds are almost unuseable....stones, bubbles etc.

the 6mm seconds you can't even tell are seconds.

some people like the softness of it, some don't. i do like it. i learned with CIM clear, which is scummy as all get out and very soft. but i learned how to work with it.

[Ravenesque]

Wow really, I was about to order the seconds. I hate to order regular though and have it be too soft for me hmmm
I like the consistency of Effetre larger diameter

[istandalone24/7]

i really think the only reason they're so full of bubbles and stones is that it was the end of the pull.
every time i've gotten the regular size 2nds, i couldn't even tell they were seconds.