|
2009-02-26, 1:44pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
New Oxycon & Cricket - Can someone help me please?
OK - ridiculous question here, folks, but here goes!
I have a brand new Cricket
I have a new (refurbed) DeVilbiss 515 5lp oxycon
Now what? I have the oxycon set up with the green hose to the correct place on the torch - same with the propane. I have a flashback arrestor/quick disconnect on the Propane - which IS outside, and so I'm ready to go!
But....I admit, I'm a bit perplexed with the instructions on "running" the oxy for 20 minutes before torching, and also the advice to adjust your oxy at the oxycon instead of at the torch - huh?
Do I just light the propane at the torch, start the oxycon, and slowly open the oxygen at the torch?
Argh - what a Chicken Little! If anyone can offer me a step-by-step, I'd sure appreciate it! Once it do it properly ONE TIME, I'll never have to ask again! Promise!!! Just don't want to possibly damage my new oxycon or do something stupid.
Any "settings" advice would be great too! Like what PSI to set gas, etc.
Thanks my Peeps!
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-02-26, 2:20pm
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 04, 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,212
|
|
1) Open the oxygen valve on the Cricket.
2) Start up the oxycon.
3) Wait 20 minutes (optional)
4) Light torch (you can close the oxygen valve on your torch briefly to do this)
5) Melt glass
6) When taking a break, turn off the gas, but leave the oxycon running, and the oxygen valve on your torch open.
Malcolm
__________________
ARTCO
Artist's Reliable Tool Company
Website: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Email: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Phone:+1.408.288.7978
|
2009-02-26, 2:47pm
|
|
PyronamixK
|
|
Join Date: Jun 24, 2005
Location: Spatula City
Posts: 4,196
|
|
I would just add that when you open your oxygen valve up and start your oxycon, open the valve all the way on your torch and set the oxycon to 5 LPM. That way, no matter how big a flame, you won't pull out more than 5 LPM from your oxycon and you can adjust the oxygen with the torch valve. Just make sure that the ball on the flow meter never rests on the bottom and never goes above 5. The flow is measured by where the middle of the float ball hits on the scale.
__________________
Kimberly
working glass since 1990 - melting it on a torch since 2002
|
2009-02-26, 2:55pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
Malcolm and Kimberly~~~~
You guys are wonderful!!! Thanks so very much...
On your mark, get set, TORCH!!!
Hugs to you both!
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-02-26, 5:54pm
|
|
ninja thread killer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 27, 2005
Location: hot and sunny CA
Posts: 704
|
|
All of the above. De, you haven't used an oxycon before? Also, when I turn it off (oxycon & propane), I leave the valves open at the torch to bleed the lines.
AND before you light your torch, clean it . Every time. A quick little dittley poke in each thingy with the thingy GTT sent with the torch
__________________
...karen needs a coffee
|
2009-02-26, 6:22pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keewin
All of the above. De, you haven't used an oxycon before? Also, when I turn it off (oxycon & propane), I leave the valves open at the torch to bleed the lines.
AND before you light your torch, clean it . Every time. A quick little dittley poke in each thingy with the thingy GTT sent with the torch
|
Shoot!!! Thanks Kee...but I'm gonna go check the packing again - I didn't see any dittley thingie of any sort! Is there somewhere I can buy the doo-dad (or a couple of them!) to keep handy?
Thanks all...
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-02-27, 1:43pm
|
|
going crazy
|
|
Join Date: Oct 02, 2005
Location: Rockford Michigan
Posts: 974
|
|
On mine the 'dittley poke thing' was taped to the paper that came with it - it's just a thin, long piece of wire.
__________________
Barb To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My button mandrel listed here! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2009-02-27, 2:08pm
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 26, 2009
Location: Jackson, NJ
Posts: 84
|
|
Yup, taped to the instruction paper that came with the torch.
Have fun with your Cricket. I am new to the world of flameworking and just got my Cricket last week. LOVE IT.
|
2009-02-27, 7:41pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
Well, maybe I should give GTT a call...I didn't get either an instruction sheet nor a pokie thingie...just an invoice and my wonderful torch!!! Hum...hope there wasn't anything on those instructions I missed - I want to fire it up tomorrow a.m.
Thanks all for your help and advice...
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-02-28, 11:44pm
|
|
Forever
|
|
Join Date: Sep 21, 2008
Location: High Desert, California
Posts: 159
|
|
I am purchasing a oxy con 15. Would I work it the same way? As it stands right now, I am struggling with the regulators. I just put a new oxygen tank on and the darn regulators keep loosing pressure. What the heck? I am searching right now to figure out what to do. I keep bleeding the lines and still loosing pressure. I think I will just put the regulators back on. So frustating... I feel like this is rocket science.
Once the oxy con is hooked up, do you go through this?? Please let me know...
|
2009-03-01, 11:01am
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 21, 2008
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 867
|
|
Great advice from everyone for you. Someone else posted a rather clever idea somwhere here on LE. Don't rememer her name, unfortunately. As I recall, she put one of those oxygen splitters with shut-off knobs in-line with her oxycon. One side went to her torch, but she left the other side open to the room as a 'bleed'. When she wanted to torch, she left the side that went to her torch closed, but opened the 'bleed' side, and let the oxycon run for 10-20 minutes. She then turned her torch on as she would if she were on tanked 02, and when she had it adjusted, shut off the 'bleed' side. I forget why she did this, but seemed like an interesting idea, regardless.
Hopefully someone remembers her post and can give you a link to it.
Linda
|
2009-03-01, 11:06am
|
|
PyronamixK
|
|
Join Date: Jun 24, 2005
Location: Spatula City
Posts: 4,196
|
|
Check your lines for leaks. Keep in mind that when you set your regulator, then go start your torch, you will relieve some of that line pressure and your pressure will be lower than when your torch valves are closed. So, it's normal to see a drop in pressure in that sense. If you have the tank open and the torch valves closed, but the tank pressure drops, you're losing oxygen through a leak somewhere in your system.
When you use an oxygen concentrator, you do not need a regulator. The concentrator is already set.
__________________
Kimberly
working glass since 1990 - melting it on a torch since 2002
|
2009-03-01, 1:24pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NMLinda
Great advice from everyone for you. Someone else posted a rather clever idea somwhere here on LE. Don't rememer her name, unfortunately. As I recall, she put one of those oxygen splitters with shut-off knobs in-line with her oxycon. One side went to her torch, but she left the other side open to the room as a 'bleed'. When she wanted to torch, she left the side that went to her torch closed, but opened the 'bleed' side, and let the oxycon run for 10-20 minutes. She then turned her torch on as she would if she were on tanked 02, and when she had it adjusted, shut off the 'bleed' side. I forget why she did this, but seemed like an interesting idea, regardless.
Hopefully someone remembers her post and can give you a link to it.
Linda
|
Linda~~~
This DOES sound like a fab idea...I'm gonna go see if I can find the right "Y" (I'll check Sundance first...); if anyone finds the thread in the meantime, though, I hope you'll post a link. This suggestion sounds like a winner...
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-03-01, 1:46pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
OK, I've search LE the best I could - checked combining the word "connector" with "oxycon" and there's lot of great info. (and quite a bit of debate, too - giggle!) but I couldn't find the specific post for this "Y" connector question/theory to allow a "bleed" line on one side of the "Y" with an on/off control of some sort. If anyone can help me out, I'd sure appreciate it!
I did see "Y" connectors on Sundance - though I'm not sure what they have pictured there (about 1/4 way down the page, under "Y Connectors") is the regular "Y" (obviously!) and the ones with the little "flying saucers" on there - are those the "on/off" valves? Hum, doesn't look quite right...
Here's the link: http://www.sundanceglass.com/gas%20equipment-r.htm
Help? Pweeze? I'd love to know EXACTLY WHAT TO BUY so I'm not blowing it - AGAIN!
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
2009-03-01, 6:36pm
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 21, 2008
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 867
|
|
She didn't say what part she used, but there aren't many to pick from. On Sundance's page, I'd say she was using the 101V - or Y connector for Oxygen with shut-off valves.
I'm still looking for her post, myself. It was some time within the last 6-8 weeks, just don't remember which part of the forum. I'll come back if I find it
Linda
|
2009-03-01, 10:00pm
|
|
PyronamixK
|
|
Join Date: Jun 24, 2005
Location: Spatula City
Posts: 4,196
|
|
You don't really need any special contraptions. Just leave the oxygen valve open on your torch whenever your concentrator is running.
__________________
Kimberly
working glass since 1990 - melting it on a torch since 2002
|
2009-03-01, 11:23pm
|
|
I speak Murrini!
|
|
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: In a Glass House, CA
Posts: 9,170
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbinkster
You don't really need any special contraptions. Just leave the oxygen valve open on your torch whenever your concentrator is running.
|
*contraptions*...what a great word! Thanks Kim...I think this is an awesome idea
De
__________________
~DeAnne~
I've got a murrini for that,'ya know! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Only a fool rushes to his own demise..." ~Zorro
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 2:44pm.
|