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Old 2009-10-21, 9:06am
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I've been meaning to find a way to protect my kiln floor in case of accident. I have a Paragon SC2. So, I bought so fiber paper. The only kind I've found so far is the Bullseye brand really thin paper not the one that I think is called 110(?). I've read that this Bullseye paper is only supposed to be used once.

But I wonder if this is only for fusing & that to be used just to protect the floor for annealing our beads I might be able to just keep that paper in there (ie. the temps don't go as high as in fusing & the glass isn't fusing on top of the paper). Does anyone have any advice?

Also, can I just cut the paper & put in the shelf or do I need to "prepare" it some how.
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Old 2009-10-21, 9:41am
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Its going to dissentigrate (sp!) and become nasty powder that you really dont want to breathe if you fire it too many times. Couldn't you use some fiber blanket, or at least fiber felt? or even, a thin kiln shelf?

As for preparing it, you dont need to do anything special, just cut it to size.
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Old 2009-10-21, 10:12am
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Why not just put some kiln wash on the floor and be done with it? Do not use the thin paper.....
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Old 2009-10-21, 10:46am
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I just bought a kiln shelf and put my beads on a metal rest over the shelf.
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Old 2009-10-21, 11:14am
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Kiln shelf definately.I've had kilns for yrs. And always use the shelf for it, along with the kiln wash on the shelf and kiln .If the shelf get ruined just get a new one. Play if safe that way.
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Old 2009-10-21, 8:40pm
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Thanks for your answers!

I did buy the thin paper. It was the only thing they came up with when I tried to describe in Spanish what I wanted. They do have something called "manta" which literally means "blanket". This is the stuff they cut up and put in fusing if you want to keep that part of the fused glass separate. (does that make sense?) That could be the fiber blanket. That's a better option? Do I just cut it & pop it in?

Kiln wash is definitely available. I know this is totally superficial, but I kinda don't want to "dirty" my first very-own lovely fresh new kiln! I've only been using it for about 6 months and it still have the 'new car look'. But... of course, I'm also aware that's it's probably best to protect, just in case. If this is really the best option, I will do it!

Now, I have a kiln shelf that came with the kiln. It's still wrapped up in plastic! So I have to kiln wash it first, right?

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Old 2009-10-21, 8:46pm
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Several coats of kiln wash are an absolute necessity for a new kiln! You are not dirtying it - you are finalizing its preparation. You should kiln wash the bottom of the kiln (assuming it is made of fire brick and not fiber) and then also kiln wash the shelf you put in it.
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Old 2009-10-22, 5:50am
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I do not use a shelf, just kiln wash on the floor of the kiln. My relay went and the kiln temperature climbed and the beads became pancakes. The kiln wash did it's thing and I could just pick up the beads when it cooled.....

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Several coats of kiln wash are an absolute necessity for a new kiln! You are not dirtying it - you are finalizing its preparation. You should kiln wash the bottom of the kiln (assuming it is made of fire brick and not fiber) and then also kiln wash the shelf you put in it.
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Old 2009-10-22, 11:55am
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I know it's not "dirty"... But it has that "new kiln smell" !!
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When you get around to using Kiln-wash. Put down at least 3 layers. Each layer should be applied at a 90 degree angle to the last layer. Let the layers dry well between each additional layer. The kiln wash lasts a long time and doesn't had a noticeable odor to your kiln. The first firing after washing will smell a bit, but after that, it's gone.
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Old 2009-10-22, 6:47pm
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When you get around to using Kiln-wash. Put down at least 3 layers. Each layer should be applied at a 90 degree angle to the last layer. Let the layers dry well between each additional layer. The kiln wash lasts a long time and doesn't had a noticeable odor to your kiln. The first firing after washing will smell a bit, but after that, it's gone.
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Thanks! Just to mention, I wasn't really talking about the smell. I was sort of playing off the whole "new car smell" thing when you get your new car. You want it to keep that shiny new car look/smell as long as possible!

You are all wonderful. I appreciate your comments!
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Old 2009-10-26, 9:25am
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Kiln wash for sure, papers and fiber blanket will not save you kiln, glass eats both of them.

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WAIT - I hope you get this in time. Please make sure your SC2 has kiln brick inside it before you use kiln wash. My SC2 is not kiln brick - it's a ceramic fiber chamber - I would not kiln wash that. I use a kiln shelf which I just lay right on the bottom and use a kiln stand to rest my mandrels on.
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WAIT - I hope you get this in time. Please make sure your SC2 has kiln brick inside it before you use kiln wash. My SC2 is not kiln brick - it's a ceramic fiber chamber - I would not kiln wash that. I use a kiln shelf which I just lay right on the bottom and use a kiln stand to rest my mandrels on.

Hum... I'm not sure if it's brick or not. It did come with a shelf. Did you kiln wash the shelf? Do I need to go anything special to the kiln shelf or just pop it in? (besides apparently reading the booklets that came with it again! )
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Kiln wash for sure, papers and fiber blanket will not save you kiln, glass eats both of them.

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Mike, I have a Fuseboxll and have a fiber blanket down, have for many years. When my relay went I had a bead meltdown and the blanket held up, I just peeled the blobs off the blanket. Are there different types/grades of fiber blankets?
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Old 2009-11-08, 10:28am
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I put down some unglazed ceramic tile on my kiln floor and put the kiln wash on them. They were super cheap, it cost me $3 for them and I cut them to fit snug. I've done fusing on them as well as my beads and there hasn't been an issue.
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Mike, I have a Fuseboxll and have a fiber blanket down, have for many years. When my relay went I had a bead meltdown and the blanket held up, I just peeled the blobs off the blanket. Are there different types/grades of fiber blankets?
Must not have been on boil for to long and yes there are different grades of Fb I use a realy good one
in all my kilns I sell And is good for about 5 hours at 2800 on an over fire.
You can use kiln wash on fiber board to, wont heart a thing.

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