Now accepting Tutorials for LE Donations UPDATED!!

[swanseafarm]

Awww....Karen.

Well, I just read this whole thread for the first time. Do you think I have an opinion? Hell yes.

But I'll keep it to myself and just say, if I can help you just ask. I was Creative Director in a former life and put together many publications, some with over 75 pages. I have a cool bone bead tutorial on my website that I can modify for print if you'd like to use that. Let me know and I'll see if I can find the original high res files...if not I'll re shoot the images....no biggy. One thing I understand is how important decent photos are in printed material and that what looks fabulous viewed on the web might look like crap in print.

Thanks for taking this project from Liz who, btw, seems to have done a great job starting the ball rolling.

[MaureenKennedy]

As a suggestion - perhaps Karen can put up a web page showing a tutorial done the way she envisions all the tutorials should be like? This should eliminate a lot of the confusion on the various styles different people have in doing their work.

[swanseafarm]

Originally Posted by MaureenKennedy

As a suggestion - perhaps Karen can put up a web page showing a tutorial done the way she envisions all the tutorials should be like? This should eliminate a lot of the confusion on the various styles different people have in doing their work.

Good idea.
And a spec list, like pictures a minimum of 300 dpi/cmyk/print size?/format?

Just a thought.

[Karen Hardy]

Not a bad idea.

Okay - here's an example of a tutorial I did for Jeff at Inspiration toolworks.

http://inspirationtoolworks.com/lampworking/0035/
At the top of the page, click on the link to the optic-mold-tutorial.pdf

PLEASE - I do NOT expect anyone to feel like this is the only way to do it.
It's just an idea of what (my idea of) a well read easy to understand tutorial
should cover. If you have trouble formatting the appearance of the pages,
PLEASE, let me help you - I just need the text and the pictures.
If you can format the tutorials in a word document, that would be wonderful.

Even if it's not perfect at least it's a starting point, and I will do my best to
make you look good. If all you can manage to do is pop it into a WORD
document and send it to me THATS AWESOME! I will be so happy to help
make it publishable. If you're not sure, I'd rather you send me larger pictures
that are clear and not fuzzy and just let me scale them for the space.
Any questions, Please PM me and I'll be glad to help walk you through the
process.

[Kalera]

IMO the right way to do this would be to put out a call for submissions, complete with technical guidelines. It's not fair to the artists who submitted over a year ago for the .pdf to resurrect their submissions for a printed book... it puts them in the awkward position of either being "rejected" for something they never knew they were submitting to, refusing participation in a project they never knew they submitted to, or participating by default.

This is a whole new project. It did stem from the old project, but it should not appropriate the old project's submissions.

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by Kalera

IMO the right way to do this would be to put out a call for submissions, complete with technical guidelines. It's not fair to the artists who submitted over a year ago for the .pdf to resurrect their submissions for a printed book... it puts them in the awkward position of either being "rejected" for something they never knew they were submitting to, refusing participation in a project they never knew they submitted to, or participating by default.
This is a whole new project. It did stem from the old project, but it should not appropriate the old project's submissions.

Had I known then what I know now, I would have been inclined to agree
wholeheartedly with you, Kalera. But I've already invested a great deal of
time in this project, and so have many others.

As it stands I have enough excellent tutorials and ok's from those authors to
make a go of this. The others who I have not contacted yet will be given
the choice of participating or withdrawing for now (hopefully, not permanently
- I'd love to do another edition in a years time if this goes well).

I would really hate to have to reinvent the wheel and start all over from
scratch when it's this close to coming to fruition. I think that would be letting
all the people who have been waiting for this to happen down.

[Just Nancy]

Originally Posted by Kalera

IMO the right way to do this would be to put out a call for submissions, complete with technical guidelines. It's not fair to the artists who submitted over a year ago for the .pdf to resurrect their submissions for a printed book... it puts them in the awkward position of either being "rejected" for something they never knew they were submitting to, refusing participation in a project they never knew they submitted to, or participating by default.

This is a whole new project. It did stem from the old project, but it should not appropriate the old project's submissions.

I think that sums it up better than I could have. I understand proceeding because of the work done to date but it is a whole different project. I fear feelings may be hurt all around.

[krisdaka]

Yeah for Karen...you totally rock....for those of you that don't know Karen Hardy, she's one of the good guys. I've been reading her comments for a couple years on another list, and whenever she posts, it is the most sensable, helpful pertinant words in the thread. And she's funny as hell...This book will end up being a good book of tutes. I wish I could give ya a hand Karen, but i'm pretty bad on the computer.. but I may buy the book just for the heck of it...
As for the comments..hasn't your mother ever told you not to look a gift horse in the mouth? I thought Karen explained her postion fairly clearly in the first coupla posts. Maybe she shouldn't have been so offensive but, if ya know Karen Hardy...that's just the way she is...not offensive in the least...just funny!!
You ladies should be getting your tutes to her asap and giving her all the help you can...
In other words quitcher bitchin, and be the nice ladies that we all know and love...

[Karen Hardy]

Krisdaka,
I love you darlin.
You n' me - we're splitting a 6 pack when this is all over.

[Cracked Baubble]

I would just like to known what the projected cost break down is....

you made a suggestion of 20-25$ will all of that be going to LE? are you or your sister (the attorney) being reimbursed for time or materials from the sales?

also, why publish vs. .pdf?

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by Cracked Baubble

I would just like to known what the projected cost break down is....you made a suggestion of 20-25$ will all of that be going to LE?

All of that depends on the amount of pages it ends up being.
The one that I did for a similar situation broke down as follows:
For a 140 page color book
Approx cost of printing: $14.90
Amount I'm planning to add on for donations: $5.00
(Things to take into consideration - any costs that I might
accrue above and beyond my donated time, such as postage
costs to mail information or release forms to authors (I'm hoping to
email them and get them back via snail mail - saving this charge, but
you never know....), any advertising for the book (should we decide
to make it available to people outside the forum), etc).

If I become liable for any taxes due to the costs of this book
then I will have to take that out so I don't end up owing
money. When I did the previous book, we ended up with me
taking out approx 75 cents per book to cover taxes.
Just for the record - I ended up spending about $100 of
my own cash money ABOVE AND BEYOND any money
that I "made" doing the other book.

Again - I am NOT doing this as a money making venture
of my own.

PLEASE REMEMBER - THESE ARE ONLY ESTIMATES!!!
If all of a sudden, a bunch of people drop out, it could
go down. Conversely, if all of a sudden, a bunch of wonderful,
awesome, incredible people decide to donate some more tutorials
and we go above the amount of pages of the previous work,
then the price will go up.

Regardless - I think that $20-25 is a good price range, since
it is just around what other books of this nature are going
for (much less than most even) and I know myself that I have received
probably several hundreds of dollars worth of good advice from using this
forum!.

are you or your sister (the attorney) being reimbursed for time or materials from the sales?

No. My sister is donating her time to help me create a tutorial release form
that will both cover our (the forums) collective asses AND allow the author
to keep creative license and copyright on their article. I respect that
the people here work very hard to come up with these, and I want to
make sure that if there is an opportunity for them to use it in the future
they can do so. As for materials and my own time, - please see the above
information.

also, why publish vs. .pdf?

As I have said in previous posts - most of this information is already available
on this forum. All anyone who wants to have a copy of this has to do is
find it, cut and paste it into a WORD doc, if necessary, and print it.
YES, there are some NEW tutorials here, and that's what's the kicker. If you
want the new tutorials - then that's an incentive to buy the book and donate
towards this forum.

Most people were overjoyed at the idea of having a hardcopy of these tutorials. PDF files are hard to use when you are working (I don't like my laptop open when I am torching - hot glass flying around and frit getting stuck under my keyboard are things I try and avoid at all costs).
So, let's say that you decide to print out the PDF file. That's over 100
pages in full color - how many ink cartridges would that run you (mine are
about $26 each for the black and a little higher for the color).

Plus - all the bead pictures I want to add in the back section with recipes..
wouldn't you want to have that in the book - with all the colors?
Areas for putting in your own notes as to what worked and what favorite
colors you used for each tutorial?

[Karen Hardy]

Awwww - NO honey....
I DO understand why you were so upset - please don't feel
bad. It was a miscomunication on my my part.
Sometimes what we say out loud (or in our heads)
doesn't translate well to the printed word.
My bad - not yours.
{{{hugs}}}
And thanks for the appreciation. I really hope people
are happy with this.

Originally Posted by kandice

I don't know what to say at this point, except I am sorry I started all this, and I am sorry that a lot of people don't seem to understand why I was so upset.

I do appreciate all the hard work Karen has done. I don't know what else to say.

[Karen Hardy]

Just a quick 50 cent update.
I'm kicking back waiting on some tutorials to
be finished and sent to me.
Th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks.

[greenbeadenvy]

I will try and get time to put mine into word and sent out to you ASAP.
Em xx

[Gelly]

is it done yet?

[Karen Hardy]

Shoo....go make some oinkers.
(troublemaker)

Originally Posted by Gelly

is it done yet?

[greenbeadenvy]

ROFL

[meadowesky]

I hope to get shane to take the pics of my tutorial tonight
I cant wait to see this!

[Cracked Baubble]

Thanks for answering my questions

Originally Posted by Karen Hardy

wouldn't you want to have that in the book - with all the colors?
Areas for putting in your own notes as to what worked and what favorite
colors you used for each tutorial?

TBH, no... I'd rather have all of that in a nicely formated PDF (which is why I don't just harvest them from the forum, I don't want to spend the time formatting, and having high quality pics is a big plus). I knit and I buy a good deal of my patterns in PDF. I can save them to my hard drive and not care if the copy I have on hand gets ruined. I can write all over it, scratch out anything and everything, I can print just what I need when I need it and I don't have to find room for yet another a book, which I wouldn't want to take out to the torch anymore than I would want to take my laptop.

This is just my .02

[Jane P]

Hi Karen,
I'm a newbie here, and as such want to say a big "thank you" for taking all this on - you are very brave. I am really looking forward to purchasing this book. Maybe it will help me make a round bead instead of a lop sided one!

Jane
aka Ginny

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by Ginny

Hi Karen,
I'm a newbie here, and as such want to say a big "thank you" for taking all this on - you are very brave. I am really looking forward to purchasing this book. Maybe it will help me make a round bead instead of a lop sided one!

Jane
aka Ginny

It probably won't help you make a round bead (round beads are SO overrated!).
What it WILL help you do is take that wonky bead and look at it in a whole new
light. Can you say "nugget"? Hee, hee, hee....

[*Naos*]

Karen, hey I have to work HARD to make nuggets. LOL

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by *Naos*

Karen, hey I have to work HARD to make nuggets. LOL

Not me. All I have to do to make a nugget is try and make a round bead.

Hmmmm...that gives me an idea. I might jut get a round bead if I try and make
a nugget! Ack. With my luck, I'd end up with a triangle.

[Karen Hardy]

Just so you all know, the expenses for the book have increased.
I will be charging an extra .00005 to cover the cost of a band aid.
I burnt the living &%$#@ out of my thumb while trying one
of these tutorials. I may have to put an "idiot commentary" box
on the sided of the tutorials. Something like, "don't try and answer
the telephone with your elbow while you are marvering a hot bead".
Big assed bead slipped off the marver and rolled right onto my thumb.
...and it turned out to be a really ugly bead too (poor color choices on
my part), so I can't even say I suffered for my art.
Dangity-dang-dang.

On the plus side, the tutorial worked great!
I'm going through each one and making sure that the instructions make
sense and that everything is clear - from the materials list to the
descriptions of the process. Some of the tutes are more informative, while
others are focusing in on the process.
I - am - very - excited!
Oh, and in pain. Happy ouchies.
(and yes, I'm kidding about charging extra for the bandaids ).

[Elegance_1]

I think we all feel your pain (at one time or another)

Can you give *any* idea of when this will be ready? A month, a year????

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by Elegance_1

I think we all feel your pain (at one time or another)

Can you give *any* idea of when this will be ready? A month, a year????

Here's the dealio.
I have about 5 people that are "working" on their tutorials, with promises to
send them to me within 3 weeks (so about 2 weeks to go on those). I'm presuming that if they have problems or ask for an extension, I'll give 'em another week (I mean, I'd threaten not to pay them, but...well....not much incentive there ).

After I get the last tutorials in, then I will complete the organizing and get it into it's final form (maybe another week - again, keep in mind, I'm doing this part time - HOWEVER I have recently had about 3 people with editing skills step up to the plate {bless you!} so I MAY be calling on them if I fall short).

The last step to this is a call for bead porn. I want to have a few pages in the back of the book with pictures of the LE members beads PLUS the quick and dirty recipes FOR those beads (example: "Ivory base bead with Cobalt stringer and raku frit").

As soon as I get enough to fill the pages I have set aside (and that should go quick!) I will consider the book "done" and email out the release forms. Presuming it takes people about 2 weeks after that to get the forms back to me, as soon as I have all the forms I will upload the content to the publisher, set the price and it will be available for purchase within about 48-72 hours after that.

I'm kind of shooting for an April 1st release date just because it's April 1st and that should give me enough time. Again, since this is an all volunteer project, I am at the mercy of those with the release forms (as soon as they go out) and tutorials. I can only say that things ARE progressing nicely - and - if anything, all the lessons learned will make the "Lampwork ETC Book of Tutorials Volume II" go real smoothly...

[Ever After]

Thanks so much Karen for taking this on! i cant wait!

[fyrebeadz*]

so how does one get one of these books once they are "published"? I haven't taken the time to read this whole thread.................

[Karen Hardy]

Originally Posted by fyrebeadz*

so how does one get one of these books once they are "published"? I haven't taken the time to read this whole thread.................

As soon as I "publish it" on the website, all you have to do is log on and
purchase it. Shipping cost is determined by location and the number of copies
you purchase. Last time I did this, we got our books within a week.
It was very efficient!

[fyrebeadz*]

Karen, what website???