Point me in the direction of tubing tuts?

pierces*designs · #1 2012-05-04, 4:24am

ANyone? Free or pay.

I almost killed myself trying to figure out the 30mm tubing I got.

Bunyip · #2 2012-05-04, 4:35am

Free:
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=138695

Bunyip · #3 2012-05-04, 4:39am

Paid:
http://www.artglasshouse.com/pc_prod...F37CC85D35BB7F

Cosmo · #4 2012-05-04, 6:22am

If you want, I'll come down there and show you some stuff...

pierces*designs · #5 2012-05-04, 11:41am

Chad, I would happily pay you for some time. And buy you and Amanda some yummy dinner. LOL

menty666 · #6 2012-05-04, 11:52am

what do you need to figure out?

pierces*designs · #7 2012-05-04, 11:58am

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Originally Posted by menty666

what do you need to figure out?

How to pull the points without killing myself or setting the house on fire.

Cosmo · #8 2012-05-04, 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by pierces*designs

Chad, I would happily pay you for some time. And buy you and Amanda some yummy dinner. LOL

Well, morning sickness is getting the better of Amanda, so she isn't traveling much these days. But I'd gladly come down there (or you could come up here) if you want. Just let me know.

But for pulling points, the best advice I can give you is use less heat than you think. Even though the tube may be 30mm in diameter or whatever, the wall is 4mm thick (or less) so it doesn't take that much heat. You just want a dull orange glow. Heat a section that is about twice as wide as the diameter of the tube, get it heated evenly, then take it out of the flame and pull. Keep rotating while you pull. There is a learning curve to avoid short handles or handles that are so thin they shatter when you use them. The thicker the wall of the tubing, the easier it is to pull points. I've pulled probably well over 1000 points, and I still have issues when doing it with standard wall tubing.

Otter's Flame · #9 2012-05-05, 2:00pm

I was given some advice when I first started working with tubing that seems to be about what it took for me. Get a case of cheap tubing, pull point after point (or attempt anyway) and then when you have burned through about a case or so of tubing, you can just about pull a point lol well... almost anyway. I think it does help to have someone show you, I wish I would have had someone to show me at the time I started working tubing. However I think pulling points is definitely one of those practice, practice, practice, practice, practice practice things!!

You are very lucky to have Cosmo as a resource so close to you. Good luck!

Otter

Jngljnke · #10 2012-05-05, 3:38pm

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showt...ht=pull+points

^^^Good info here as well. A quick youtube search yeilds plenty of videos also.

Cosmo nailed it though. I get the best results if I wait until it's starting to loose the honey consistency before I pull. Pulling harder or faster than I needed left me with a droopy point.

I like to start in the center of the tube for my first pull.

Good luck.

LePatron · #11 2012-05-05, 10:22pm

Hey Debbie,

I'm going to be doing some tube pulls (making the line tubing with vac stacks) and can show you a lot of the basics just by doing that prep work.

Pulling points is pretty easy, but they can be rough at first to not get janky shoulders and too thin of a point that doesnt break in your hand. We can also go over other ways, such as blowhose/blowtubes and such that are viable alternatives.

In exchange for unlimited free time, all you have to do is show my girlfriend a few marble/bead tricks.

The work you do is the exact opposite of my work.

I'm in Raleigh, shoot me a PM if you'd like to meet up. My studio is in my home.

tweeky clothespin · #12 2012-05-10, 7:13am

I am always amazed at how generous people here at LE.

patienthand · #13 2012-05-13, 4:19am

dont get over excited and pull too soon.. and also make sure its turning true before you start to pull.. that way you end up more on center. I pull slow at first, let the heat even out, and the wall thickness stay thick, and pull faster and harder at the end if needed... NEVER EVER stop turning the tube

Trapped In Glass · #14 2012-05-13, 9:51pm

As a beginner. Things I need to remember pulling points.
Heat base. Heat 2x wider then diameter of tube . Take it in and out of the flame a couple of times. Let the heat sink in. After you pull a few. You will notice the sholders are more even when the heat is right. When you're ready to pull let it firm up some. Keep spinning. Gently pull. I stop a second time after a short pull and let the diameter set, then spin and pull more. And like all glass its practice, practice practice. At over $100 a case you will pay attention and get better relatively soon.

glassshack · #15 2012-05-29, 12:47pm

Just say NO to points .... order up some 12.7, attach and fire it right on up!!

Just saying ..... waste is waste

And if your ever in Surfside Beach , stop on in , I'll show ya just how quick and easy it is and why I don't pull points .... ever!

drew1492 · #16 2012-06-01, 3:58pm

Blow tubes are the way to go they are a lot easier to get straight and teach you about doing seals as well.

patienthand · #17 2012-06-02, 5:14am

for some things I like blow tubes and for a lot I prefer to pull points, it depends on what I am making. The reason I like pulled points is. I can spin it MUCH faster than a fatter tube. I can get great centrifical force for flaring. I also work very light and thin for the most part and pulled points seem to work better for that style. For lab or pipe type work done with med and heavy wall glass, yes, blow tubes are often a better choice.

I dont think there is an always best way to do something.. there is a best way for a certain style of work, or a best way for you. I think it pays to learn it all, and then you have more options to get the best result.

Cosmo · #18 2012-06-02, 6:29pm

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Originally Posted by patienthand

for some things I like blow tubes and for a lot I prefer to pull points, it depends on what I am making. The reason I like pulled points is. I can spin it MUCH faster than a fatter tube. I can get great centrifical force for flaring. I also work very light and thin for the most part and pulled points seem to work better for that style. For lab or pipe type work done with med and heavy wall glass, yes, blow tubes are often a better choice.

I dont think there is an always best way to do something.. there is a best way for a certain style of work, or a best way for you. I think it pays to learn it all, and then you have more options to get the best result.

I'm the same way. Plus, I never seem to have smaller tubing around when I need it.

caliglassguy · #19 2012-06-12, 8:25pm

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Originally Posted by pierces*designs

ANyone? Free or pay.

I almost killed myself trying to figure out the 30mm tubing I got.

Here's a free one from Acroduster on you tube ....he seems to have alot of tutorial stuff. You have to watch or fast forward to about 1 min 50 secs before he begins pulling points explanation. Hope this helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdVQKAU4hI

Also another one but this one is from Timiaglass this is a bit brighter on the lighting which really helps you see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8no68RxYpNo