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2015-01-02, 1:24pm
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If this question has been asked before please point me in the right direction, I used the search and didn't find an answer. I just started making beads last week. I am having issues with my bead release. When I heat my mandrel the release cracks and either goes flying off or gets all over my bead. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? I have cleaned my mandrels and used a low grit sandpaper and that hasn't helped. I also tried to flame dry them but got the same result as air dry. Thank you in advance
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2015-01-02, 1:49pm
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I always stick my mandrels in the flame to burn off any machining oil before I use them. What kind of bead release are you using? How long do you let it dry?
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2015-01-02, 2:15pm
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How thick is it when you use it? I like mine like thin pancake batter.
Adding water as needed to get that consistency.
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2015-01-02, 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by jeepinwelch
I always stick my mandrels in the flame to burn off any machining oil before I use them. What kind of bead release are you using? How long do you let it dry?
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I am using the fireworks release, it is the stuff that came in the kit I received, and I am letting them dry overnight.
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2015-01-02, 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by tela
How thick is it when you use it? I like mine like thin pancake batter.
Adding water as needed to get that consistency.
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I am putting one coat on, so not very thick and it is about the same thickness as Elmers glue... maybe I should try thinning it out a bit?
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2015-01-02, 2:36pm
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I don't know of anyone who has had good luck the Fireworks bead release. Take a look at some of the vendors' sites on this board and see what they have to offer. There are many types of bead release that will do a good job for you. I've used Alice's bead release for over 10 years and it's worked really well for me (it comes in a powder form that you mix with water). Others use Foster Fire, Sludge Plus, Fusion, etc. I know how frustrating it is to have crappy bead release, so you have my sympathy! Good luck.
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2015-01-02, 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling
I am using the fireworks release, it is the stuff that came in the kit I received, and I am letting them dry overnight.
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There's your problem.
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2015-01-02, 3:25pm
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Yep, I was going to say it's the bead release. Robin Foster sells the bead release I use and she's having a sale right now. Fosterfire.
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2015-01-02, 4:58pm
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Two thumbs up for Forster Fire!
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2015-01-02, 5:19pm
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Is there a reason the type I have doesn't work? Or is it just a crappy product?
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2015-01-02, 5:46pm
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Is there a reason the type I have doesn't work? Or is it just a crappy product?
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Crappy product. Never heard of anyone that uses it successfully.
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2015-01-02, 9:14pm
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Fyi: the torch will crash out pretty soon too. You can light it manually (use a striker) but you might want to go ahead and look into getting a hot head torch. Works like a fireworks, but better.
My favorite bead release, foster fire https://www.etsy.com/shop/FosterFireBR
You won't believe the difference!
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2015-01-02, 9:49pm
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Crap crap crap - Fosterfire or Fusion
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2015-01-02, 10:27pm
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There are 5 hot heads for sale over in the garage sale area right now.
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2015-01-03, 9:32am
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Thank you all for your suggestions!! I am going to order some of the foster fire release today. As far as torch heads go, a friend of my husband's offered to sell me her oxygen/ propane set up for a really good price, but I don't know.... is this getting ahead of myself? Should I just get a hothead and stick with the mapp gas for now?
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2015-01-03, 10:57am
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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling
As far as torch heads go, a friend of my husband's offered to sell me her oxygen/ propane set up for a really good price, but I don't know.... is this getting ahead of myself? Should I just get a hothead and stick with the mapp gas for now?
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If it's a good deal snag it! You can always post it for sale in the Garage Sale area if you don't end up using it. 90% of my equipment came to me that way. The less you spend on equipment the more you can spend on glass!
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2015-01-03, 12:00pm
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If it's a good deal snag it! You can always post it for sale in the Garage Sale area if you don't end up using it. 90% of my equipment came to me that way. The less you spend on equipment the more you can spend on glass!
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Very good point! I may have just bought 18lbs of glass I can see this turning into a major addiction
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2015-01-03, 1:34pm
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oh, that is an understatement!
The good news is you will be so darn happy about it!
and yes, always upgrade if you can. You will want a bigger torch sooner or later.
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2015-01-03, 2:24pm
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18 pounds? Nothing like jumping in with both feet!
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18 pounds? Nothing like jumping in with both feet!
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lol go big or go home
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2015-01-03, 3:12pm
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lol go big or go home
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You need to meet up with Leslie Bitgood, AKA Crazy Woman glass. She's in Lakewood. The enormity of her stash puts us all to shame.
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2015-01-03, 3:55pm
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You need to meet up with Leslie Bitgood, AKA Crazy Woman glass. She's in Lakewood. The enormity of her stash puts us all to shame.
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oh very cool! Lakewood is not far from me at all! I will have to look her up.
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