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2008-03-02, 11:07am
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What Should I Buy First? I Own Nothing Right Now. Where Do I Start?
Hello. It's me Kimberly the new one I want to learn glass bead making and I don't know what to buy or who to buy from . I have a total of 450.00 my husband said I can spend to get some things to begin with.
I know I need a torch and glass but I don't know what kind of tourch to buy or what color and type of glass. What tools will I need and what video is the best. I want to do this cheap as I don't have a lot of money and want to get the most for my money.
I don't think I want to deal with oxygen and all that first to start out so keep it simple for me. I don't want to use the mapp gas as that does not last very long I have heard and is to expensive to keep buying over and over. Is it ok to use the gas from my grill?
Please is there a list that will tell me what I will use the most for a beginner. Any help greatly appreciated.
Kimberly
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2008-03-02, 11:32am
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Kimblerly
Welcome. Lampwork beading is so much fun.
If you are not sure if you are going to do this or like this and just starting out, I would suggest a Hot Head torch, bulk Mapp or bulk Chemtane (connect the two with a hose you can get in the camping section of Lowes or home Depot). I was on a HH for years and the bulk chemtane or mapp is less expensive than the little canisters, but I used those as well. Some people will say that propane is ok, but I found it muddied my glass. Many people use this as well.
Get an assorment of glass from any of the distrubutors. They come in small and large bundles and you can pick which one you like. Get some mandrels and bead release and you are ready to go.
If you want a video there are several out there. The first one I watched before my first class was 2 of Lewis Wilson's that were in my library. I don't remember the names, but they really helped.
You don't need a lot of fancy tools, a butter knife is all that many use.
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2008-03-02, 11:51am
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Here's what my beginner list would be:
HotHead with SS holder/work surface (I would avoid bulk tanks, myself)
torch striker
didymium glasses
1/16 and 3/32 mandrels and bead release
glass assortment
long serrated tweezers
graphite marver
old non-serrated steak knife
fiber blanket or pot of vermiculite
aloe plant, LOL
pot of sand or foam block for holding mandrels
Nice to have:
BBQ-type mashers
tungsten pick or similar dental tool
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2008-03-02, 12:07pm
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Yes Yes, I knew I was forgetting something. Glasses and vermiculite of course. DUH
You are not going to want to sell your beads until you get a kiln to anneal them or have someone anneal them for you.
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2008-03-02, 12:29pm
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Oh thanks so much for the input. I was wondering. A guy sales this entire kit for 198.00 it has all sorts of stuff in it. I was not sure if I needed it all or not. Thanks y
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2008-03-02, 1:08pm
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Is there a link to the kit? We can tell you if its a good one or not.
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2008-03-02, 3:42pm
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I will be happy to send you a small assortment of basic 104 colors
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2008-03-02, 3:43pm
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2008-03-02, 3:49pm
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2008-03-02, 4:10pm
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Kimberly,
Just click on the members sign-on name in the top of the post and then click on pm .
PM= private message
Welcome,
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2008-03-02, 4:13pm
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I would recommend you take a beginner's class. It will give you the basics on safety, ventilation, torch types, technique, glass, etc. and save you a bunch of frustration trying to figure out some things by yourself. Also, don't forget a fire extinguisher!
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2008-03-02, 4:48pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lindag
I would recommend you take a beginner's class. It will give you the basics on safety, ventilation, torch types, technique, glass, etc. and save you a bunch of frustration trying to figure out some things by yourself. Also, don't forget a fire extinguisher!
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I second that...
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2008-03-02, 6:54pm
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Kimberly, I got the $89 kit at Delphi glass and it had everything that I needed to get started. Trust me, it won't take you long to know whether you love it or not.
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2008-03-03, 10:55am
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Thanks everyone. I purchased my first kit last night. I can't wait till it gets here. I have looked for classes in my area and can not find any. I hope to get really good and be the first to offer it here. If you all know of anyone in Fairmont, morgantown or clarksburg West Virginia who offers classes please let me know. Any way thank you all and will surely have alot more questions in the future. You have all been so wonderful.
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2008-03-04, 12:53am
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When i started lampworking I took a class. Would recommend that to anyone. Svaes you a lot of figuring out for youself. If you can't find one in your local area, why don't take a weekend class away and make a vaccation out of it!
I could also recommend YouTube for videos. There you can find demos on a lot of different techniques, from beginners level to advanced. And it's for free!
Also, if you haven't allready done that, order a sample pack of Effetre glass. Most dealers have it and it gets you a chance to find out how all the different colors react.
Good luck! You've got a lot of fun ahead of you.
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2008-03-04, 6:21am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lindag
I would recommend you take a beginner's class. It will give you the basics on safety, ventilation, torch types, technique, glass, etc. and save you a bunch of frustration trying to figure out some things by yourself. Also, don't forget a fire extinguisher!
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Ditto, I highly recommend taking a class before purchasing all sorts of stuff
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2008-03-04, 7:08am
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I got the beginner's kit from Sundance when I first started. It's a good kit and they have pretty good prices (at least they did when I was buying from them locally). I also ordered Essential Beadmaking on dvd. Never took a class, but the dvd really helped a lot.
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