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2017-07-26, 11:48pm
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Disposing of bead release
Hello folks.
I note that there were a range of safety warnings on my bead release, so it may not be good for the environment either.
What is the best way to dispose of water that has bead release in it? My sewer goes into a tank and leach-field in my garden - I don't use washing liquids with high salt content as a result.
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2017-07-27, 5:26am
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I had not heard of any environmental issues with bead release.
Robin (Foster Fire) makes and sells bead release and is also a middle school science teacher as well so perhaps she can answer your questions.
You might want to do a search of "bead release" and see if any negative comments come up.
I understand it is mostly made from things like kaolin which is a type of clay and although it could accumulate in your plumbing there shouldn't be any hazard to the environment.
I would simply pour it out in my gravel drive myself like I would fire place ashes.
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2017-07-27, 10:10am
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Yep, it's hazardous to breathe while dry, not to be exposed to.
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2017-07-27, 10:59am
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Questions on a particular brand might best be answered by manufacturer.
When I first started about 2003 I thought nothing of letting it go down the drain. Don't positively know it caused drain pipe to disintegrate, but we ended up having to replace the trap under that sink.
We use a lagoon - clay would only seal it better. Don't know if I'd let it go into a septic tank where it would be deposited & cause a need to pump it out sooner. Might eventually - years - contribute to filling leach field pipes.
Now I toss it out the back door onto the gravel path. I've never noticed any grass kill or other problems in the surrounding areas.
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2017-07-27, 2:03pm
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Most bead release is a combo of kaolin/graphite/preservatives. No harm in throwing it out, just don't breathe the dust. Or, you could do like the super thrifty do and recycle it. Wait for the water to mostly evaporate, swish around the break up large particles, dip fresh mandrel and go a second time. Not that I've ever done this, but I've read of it being done.
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2017-07-27, 4:34pm
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I think the stuff that comes off a mandrel once it has been torched won't function as bead release anymore but apart from not breathing it and not letting it collect in the lower corners of your plumbing it should be safe enough.
I pour used bead release from the bottom of my bead cleaning bucket on my driveway.
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2017-07-27, 9:59pm
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Thanks everyone! Sounds like I just dispose of it in various spots around the garden to spread the clay effect out. At least that's not going to affect my soil, which I could probably bloody fire in the kiln to produce pottery as it is.
I'm lucky enough to live above a platypus colony so we have to be a bit careful what we do
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2017-07-28, 6:41am
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If you live in a wet area you could dig a hole a foot deep and pour it in there and cover it and that should keep it from migrating anywhere for a good couple hundred years at least.
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2017-07-29, 12:09pm
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I realize that conventional wisdom is "don't breathe the dust" and I don't recommend it, but it is actually more hazardous to breathe household dust than bead release dust, as a comparison.
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2017-08-07, 7:16am
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Quote:
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I realize that conventional wisdom is "don't breathe the dust" and I don't recommend it, but it is actually more hazardous to breathe household dust than bead release dust, as a comparison.
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I've heard the main concern is silicosis resulting from inhalation of crystalline silica. Are any of the Fosterfire line crystalline silica free?
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2017-08-07, 8:57am
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I just stepped out the door and poured my old release into a weedy area yesterday.
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2017-09-29, 8:59am
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Harmful to breath.
That's why beads go from the kiln (cold) straight into a pan of water for removal.
Dremelled clean under running water in a separate pan with a little recirculating pump
I just dump the water and dissolved release under a tree in the yard.
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2017-09-30, 1:47pm
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I just dump mine into the grass at the end of our front porch. Haven't noticed a problem yet.
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2017-10-08, 8:41am
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Enough of it could make your septic tank less effective so try not to let it go down the drain though.
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2017-10-08, 10:47am
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I pour that water down mole holes in my yard. I keep hoping it might discourage them.
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2017-10-08, 4:57pm
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I'm lucky enough to live above a platypus colony so we have to be a bit careful what we do
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2017-10-09, 7:32am
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I have a sink that empties directly out onto what used to be a red clay racetrack that the former owners built. We had topsoil hauled in on top of the clay and that's where my studio sits (albeit 2' closer to the house since Irma and the tornado, but still on the red clay). I put all my beads into a sink of water, let them soak, Dremel them, rinse off my mandrels, then pull the plug. The sink empties directly into the red clay (which you could probably use to do sculpting!) and both my beads and my mandrels are clean. This is all in the back of an acre of land and the septic tank is elevated about 12' and in the front of the acre and the house. I'm not worried about harming the environment or myself, as I keep everything wet as I clean it down wet dust can't fly.
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2017-10-09, 3:19pm
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I clean my beads in a container of water. I pour the dirty water through a coffee filter. Pour the water outside and throw the filter and release bits in the garbage.
It's fired clay. I wouldn't want it going down our pipes.
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