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Old 2007-10-23, 3:32pm
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I went to dip all my mandrels for the second time. The jar of bead release (it's Foster Heavy Duty) seems a different consistency than I remembered it? It doesn't seem to stick to the mandrel, the mandrel comes out clean. I stirred it up quite well with a mandrel, and shook up the jar. Should I be adding some liquid to it?

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Kelly
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Old 2007-10-23, 4:16pm
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If the release is not sticking to your mandrels, there may be something on the mandrels. I had this happen once. Scrub the mandrels with soap and water with a scrubbie and try again. I prefer a thin coat of release and have to thin it every second or third time I use the release. You can use distilled water.
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Old 2007-10-23, 4:22pm
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Sounds like it might have gotten thick too - I would try taking a small amount in a separate jar and thinning it a little and see if that helps.
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Old 2007-10-23, 7:15pm
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What they said! And if you put 2 or 3 wonky beads in the bottle, you won't have to use a mandrel to mix it up. You just shake the bottle and the beads do the work.
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Old 2007-10-23, 7:28pm
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Do you soak your beads in water and fabric softener? If so, the mandrels need to be washed with a soap that will remove the residue.
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Old 2007-10-24, 6:03am
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Your mandrels can also develop a micro-thin layer of corrosion that will keep the release from sticking. I wipe mandrels with isopropyl alcohol on a cloth immediately before I dip them and often see just a bit of color on the cloth. This gets rid of finger grease, rust, etc. and gives you a clean surface.

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Old 2007-10-24, 6:15am
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If the release is not sticking to your mandrels, there may be something on the mandrels. I had this happen once. Scrub the mandrels with soap and water with a scrubbie and try again. I prefer a thin coat of release and have to thin it every second or third time I use the release. You can use distilled water.

WAIT!!!!

I thought there was some big NO NO about using distilled water.
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Old 2007-10-24, 7:09am
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WAIT!!!!

I thought there was some big NO NO about using distilled water.
NO....At least, with the Smooth & Tuff, IF you have a house water softener, you MUST use distilled water...the salts in the softened water mess up the formula and basically make it break apart (like curdled milk....ask me how I know). Distilled water is the purest form of water, no extra freaky stuff of any sort. I use it in my iron, too.
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Old 2007-10-24, 8:39am
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Hi,
Thanks everyone. I thoroughly cleaned the mandrels, no luck. I started adding a little water at a time to the bead release and testing, and now I'm all set to go again. It must have dried out a little too much.
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Old 2007-10-24, 8:59am
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What they said! And if you put 2 or 3 wonky beads in the bottle, you won't have to use a mandrel to mix it up. You just shake the bottle and the beads do the work.
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Old 2007-10-24, 10:17am
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Have you "ruffled" your mandrels before you use them? My bead-release will stick better when I do so.

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Old 2007-10-24, 8:27pm
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She got it right - just needed water. When you dip your mandrels if the release look patchy then it needs water added. And yup, please use distilled or bottled water if you have a house water softening system.
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Old 2007-10-24, 11:22pm
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can i use vodka to thin it out?
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Old 2007-10-25, 12:26am
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yes, but then you won't stick to you mandrel either!!!...
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Old 2007-10-25, 7:07am
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Vodka would be "dramatic", but Amaretto would smell better!
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Old 2007-10-25, 9:34am
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I think you'd have much more 'interesting' beads if you had the vodka on your workbench instead of in your bead release.
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Old 2007-10-25, 12:51pm
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You'd have even more interesting results if the vodka were in you.

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Old 2007-10-25, 1:36pm
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can i use vodka to thin it out?
Ummmmmmm beer works (ok so sometimes I'm real lazy), I don't know about vodka. Disclaimer beer works on FPI, I'm not sure about other releases!
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