help using metallic black and dark silve plum

[judejudejude]

hi every one, i know this has been asked and answered before and i have been searching this site for 3 day now as well as all the suppliers that i can think of and can't seem to find the right place. i just received metallic black and dark silver plum and am on a lynx and just can't seem to get either of these to work as i have seen in some of the pictures you people post. i love both or these colors and the effects that can be had by them. all i get with the metallic black is an awesome pure shiny black, this one works like butter. as for the plum, i get a time bit of shimmer of color but no anywhere near what i have seen. i batch anneal and they haven't been in the kiln yet so maybe i have to put them in the kiln first. ????
please help me.............thank you.............jude

[CelesteK]

I've worked both of those glasses on my hot head and gotten really great results. Since it works so well on a hot head, maybe you need to finish it with a pass through a reducing flame (propane rich). Hopefully, someone else will have more insights.

Celeste

[jamie lynne]

Try the shards made with this glass, IMHO they work better than the straight up rod. I couldnt get anything out of it until i used the shards. No reducing required, just tack one on gently melt on, (I prefer mine raised a bit) it will go metalic on it's own.

[framerak]

I used to try to reduce my silver plum and never got decent results. Someone (Jen Geldard maybe?) told me NOT to reduce it and sure enough, the results were alot better when I turned my propane down.

[ROC]

Seems like the beads which show the most color for me are the ones that I've worked longest in the flame on my HH. No reduction seems necessary, but they seem to show more shimmers the longer they've been heated/played with for me.

[likes to make glass stuff]

I think it's an oxygen flame that DSP likes. I haven't played with metallic black yet.

[judejudejude]

thanks so much for the ideas. i will try all of them....
any more ideas would be great too.

[demcc2]

Jude. I had the same issues when I first tried both dark and light silver plum. I received anice metallic sheen, but no color. I sent a message to Amber (NAOS).
Amber likes to use shards of this glass, and she prefers to used them RAISED. She goes on to say that the colors ( teal, raspberry) are easier to get when shards are raised because the heat used to flatten the shard also "burns" the metal out of the shard itself.

Heat the bead with the shard cool! Heat to a slight glow, take it out of the flame to cool it a bit then heat it gently and slowly again, in a cool flame. Watch only for a slight glow. When cooling it check for colors. You may need to repeat this a few times. Play around with it. After a while you should notice the colors.

Duane

[Feldt's Glass]

I work off a cheetah. I have used both of these glasses and for me what worked best is to create the bead in a neutral to very slight reduction flame (working cool) and then when finished flash in an oxy rich flame until you see color. It shouldn't take long.

I have gotten the best results with raised stringer work. I have yet to play with the shards but they sound like fun.

[judejudejude]

i tried these various ways. londa's way worked for me with the metallic black......thanks everyone. i still haven't had any luck with the dk silver plum but i will still keep trying.

[cgbeads]

I can't seem to catch on the the whole adjusting the flame thing.
I simply roll the dark silver plum just under the flame, as if I were toasting a marshmellow.


-Donna

[judejudejude]

wow donna, those are awesome. something else to try. i have to make me some shards.

[Carolyn M]

I work it at the tip of an slightly oxygen rich flame