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Old 2006-01-24, 9:38am
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Have a blast Carrie. I couldn't imagine not being able to hand pick my color. It is heaven!
Must be nice! I just order whatever is on sale. Except for a case of clear..... (hint hint)
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Old 2006-01-24, 10:52am
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I have a question. I tried to take a good pic of this so you could see what I mean, but you can't really see what I mean, so I'll try to put it in words. The little jug is made of double amber purple. The neck is fully encased in clear. so far so good. The body is double amber purple with clear stripes swiped on. Where the DAP is bare, it is silver, like it was reduced, but it wasn't. I already know that my mini-cc with NG and 2 oxycons isn't enough for something of this size, so it was worked a long time. I didn't realize the change in lighting would so drastically change the colors. Cool thing and I can work with that, but....why did the DAP go silver? Does it just do that unencased, or is it something else like working too long?
I know the jug has certain fatal flaws, like it appears to be stuck on my pinky finger , just looking for some insight on the silver thing.
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Old 2006-01-24, 11:11am
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New to boro myself but I do know if you work DAP in a reducing flame before you put on your clear, then cooly apply the clear, you can capture the reduction under the clear and your glass with shimmer deep with glitter under the clear as well as the silver on the outside.
Boro is interesting stuff.... Sometimes you get silver from reducing. Sometimes you get it from oxygen flame....
P.S. gorgeous vessel!!!!!
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Old 2006-01-24, 11:22am
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Chances are it is from a reducing flame. Running concentrators, your oxygen isn't as pure as tanked oxygen. Also, when you are working it, get it hot and you will see a "haze" on the glass. More heat and you can see the haze burn off. Burn it off, let it cool, strike it, and put it into the kiln. That will give you the result you are looking for.
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Old 2006-01-24, 11:30am
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reduction would be my guess too.
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Old 2006-01-24, 12:06pm
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OK, I think I see. I didn't think it was a reduction flame, but I do have to turn up the gas to get the boro to melt on my set-up, so even though it doesn't look like a redux flame it's probably got too much gas in the mix. Or something. Thanks for the info! Mama needs a new regulator.
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Old 2006-01-24, 1:26pm
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It's reduced. If it wasn't, it would be deep Amber or Purple. the haze is a very fun thing to play with. It can yeild many many colors with practice and encasing... not just poop brown.
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I have really enjoyed this thread........even though I dont use boro its been an extremely interesting read!

Great to see such sharing of techniques and ideas.

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Old 2006-01-25, 5:38am
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These were all made with double amber purple and clear... that's it. All the greens and blues are just trapped haze.
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Showoff!!!

BTW: Had an awesome experience at Mountain Glass. Steve was the best. And all the colors to choose from..........WOW. Service was exceptional.
I will get to the torch today and play w/ boro, especially now that I have a new pair of Shade 3 that fit me
I will have to get in the habit of picture taking, I just loathe it, maybe because I suck at it
I will post what I make tomorrow...........yeah right Carrie, just keep telling yourself that
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OMG: I looked at my post and feel like I am making affirmations w/ all the "I will........"
Please forgive me my own insanity!
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Oh come on Carrie! You don't want me to be the only one posting my n00b crap do you?

Smiley....you suck!!! Seriously gorgeous!
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I wish I had better pictures of this batch of beads. They really were the coolest thing since sliced bread. I'm not normally a bead fondler, but these had me fondling away and just inpressed as hell with the color variations in that one color. Boro is fun.
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Nice piece! The colors in it are great, so many shades.
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Old 2006-01-25, 8:32am
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Lots of color in those beads with one rod.. Did you use some clear? They are gorgeous...
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Ok I took pics of my boro, um, playtime and now I don't know how to crop in Photoshop, am I am dummy or what?
How hard can it be?
Gotta go find a thread on photo stuff, whine whine. Or beg for help?
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Ok I took pics of my boro, um, playtime and now I don't know how to crop in Photoshop, am I am dummy or what?
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There's a crop tool in photoshop but I never use it. I use the crop function in the Image menu as follows: after you have your picture in photoshop, select the rectangular marquee tool (I'm assuming you know which this is because it's used so often. If not, let me know.) Make sure it's set to a rectangle since you can't crop an image that has been selected with the elliptical tool. The rectangle tool is the default, so this shouldn't be a problem. When you have the part of your image that you WANT selected with the rectangle marquee, click Image on the menu bar, then Crop. Voila! Or not. If not, let me know. Maybe someone else can explain the crop tool...

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Thank you so much for responding! I feel very small right now
I FINALLY can crop. Yippee!!!
My brain is overwhelmed w/ all the info in the Tutorial section on photo taking and editing. I have Adobe 5.5. Maybe I need an upgrade? I don't know........getting off topic now.
I would still like some feedback on the colors I got after I find my mind to post the pics.
I am done for the night.
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There's a crop tool in photoshop but I never use it. I use the crop function in the Image menu as follows: after you have your picture in photoshop, select the rectangular marquee tool (I'm assuming you know which this is because it's used so often. If not, let me know.) Make sure it's set to a rectangle since you can't crop an image that has been selected with the elliptical tool. The rectangle tool is the default, so this shouldn't be a problem. When you have the part of your image that you WANT selected with the rectangle marquee, click Image on the menu bar, then Crop. Voila! Or not. If not, let me know. Maybe someone else can explain the crop tool...

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I dunno about upgrading it. They seem to get more confusing the higher the edition # Photoshop 7 is a nightmare
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I'm running 7. If you just want it for simple photo editing, I don't see any reason to upgrade your 5.5. It looks very much like 7 and you have most of the capabilities. If you wanted to get into more complex editing, you probably would want to upgrade. It's expensive to upgrade though, and kind of a pain - especially if you get a new pc and then need to move the software. I tend to upgrade when I understand enough about the software to be able to understand the what specific improvements are and whether or not they are in areas I care about.

Glad you can crop now!
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I got mine 4 free Get limewire basic, use limewire basic to get limewire pro(for free ) then get photoshop7, again totaly free!!! Put on helmet and proceed to
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I have ALOT of 104 glass. If I started to dabble in pyrex then I would have to build another shed to put it all in. For me it is a space issue.

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Brent, I was going to PM you about this but the question was asked. When working with boro, I have tried my shade 3's on over my diddy's but can't see a damn thing. Nodda, zilch, nothing! It's VERY frustrating so I ended up taking them off. Small beads are okay right? If I go huge, then I can wear them?

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I wear dids all the time... ok, well not all the time, some times I have a shade 3, but when I'm working small I do. Sorry Mike. Just had dinner with Steve Selchow last night. He's been working boro over 30 years with dids... big... small... what ever. He saw good enough to drink a few beers and eat some chicken nachos. His vision is perfect. I'm not advocating this... just letting people know. I also run with scissors.
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Ok here is a cople of pics, finally!
I hope they aren't too big.
I will get better at this picture taking.



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Looks like you're already pretty good at picture taking! Your beads look great - beautiful colors. And the pictures look really good. I despair over my bead pictures. Photoshop isn't the problem, it's the pictures themselves.

OK, what do I like about boro? I am also a 104 COE person. My #1 reason for considering boro is thermal shock. I'd love to make ornaments, pendants, etc., but am not good enough with soft glass (and my Minor doesn't do much in the way of radiant heat) to prevent thermal shock. I am incredibly BAD at pendants. It's fine until I go to put the loop on, then it's all over. Part of this is off mandrel practice (my lack of it) since I know scads of people that make fantastic softglass pendants. Maybe I'm just lazy...
My #2 reason is to be able to use techniques associated with blown glass - montage, inside out, reticello (not that I could pull this off), and so on. And I'm NOT going to mess around with soft glass tubing (see reason #1 above.) I love geometric designs and am fascinated by the effects people get with tubing and color.
#3 is the colors. Beautiful! Mysterious! Complex! I love them. It must be all the metal. I don't think I could deal with these colors all the time cause much of the time I want precise control over the outcome and I don't think that happens much with many of the boro colors.
Now having played with boro a little I really like the slow-motion (minor & 1 concentrator) aspect. It really does give me more time to react. And no hot glass popping all over the place (I got myself right in the lip a few weeks ago.) My first couple of efforts I ripped the bead release right off the mandrel first thing cause I wasn't letting the glass get hot enough.
Boro is intimidating though. A whole new color palette. Many chemical reactions to consider. Expensive. Nasty subliming cadmium... All in all, though, I really like it and hope to learn a whole lot more in the next year.

BTW boro gurus, what's up with boro white? GA mentions several colors as looking great over white but it doesn't look to me like they even make white. NS does. Is this a color that's frequently used? If so, which do you recommend for what? Thanks!
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Tanya... GA just came out with a color called Sno White. I haven't tried it yet, but they claim it's the best thing since sliced bread. I use Egyptian White Sands from NS. It behaves the best out of all the whites I've tried. Some batches are better than others.

Addressing the dark glasses issue... I can't see squat with the darker lenses either. I would suggest more light over the work bench. I would not suggest people do what I do... I use didies or ACE lenses when I work small. I would suggest researching it for yourself before you follow my lead. They are your eyes and it's not something to mess around with.
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Carrie... your beads rock! You got some great colors... keep at it!
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Bad/good?
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