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Old 2007-08-18, 5:03pm
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Very simply put......as for the studio I have built there are 10 stations with an accumulation 10,000cfm 4 port system each individually powered,along side that a dual intake for fresh make up air.The system meets all standards for processing glass with immense burners running full time. The exhaust pull makes it difficult for people to open the gallery door. ~I wouldn't have it any other way.

Air is what we breathe.
Thats Awesome! Another great studio with an awesome ventilation system is Rebecca's Studio in Traverse City, MI.

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Old 2007-08-18, 8:04pm
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To be helpful for everyone here, how about all the peeps that have great ventilation post what, where & how much? Tell us ALL where you got it &/or how you built it & how much it costs? Make a sticky out of it. It would be wonderful useful information for all to be had

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Old 2007-08-18, 10:15pm
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When I moved, I didn't realize how inadequate my ventilation system was in my new garage until I started getting heart palpitations while torching. Made me upgrade my system quickly!! I'm now using the hooded vent from Glasscraft. The only modification I did when installing was to replace the flexible vent hose with a rigid one. Works great and no more palpitations! For those who balk at the cost... yes, it is over $300, but that is much cheaper than a trip to the ER!
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Old 2007-08-19, 6:57am
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FYI, I got a request to post more information about the ventilation related lampworking death. See:

http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal23953_R...nd_Respect.asp

There is a better link out there, but I couldn't find it.

Class studios without ventilation annoy me as well.

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Old 2007-08-19, 10:50am
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How are the specs on this one? I can't seem to find any on their website. http://www.glasscraftinc.com/product...m?part_id=7159
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:54pm
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Last I read Daniel Trilli's family did not know why he passed away. The original information came out that he got sick after a 15-hour session that included lots of fuming - and his own father replied to a thread in another forum and said the day he got sick he was not working on his project.

I'm certainly not saying that the lack of ventilation (that he was reported to have, but not be using that day because of the weather, if I remember correctly) did NOT kill him, I'm just really wondering if anyone has confirmed since his father's post on theglgd that they actually did not know the cause of his death that it was, in fact metal poisoning.

Yes, ventilation is important...but it razzes me every time I see the Trilli story since I,myself, haven't seen any confirmation from sources who were closest to him that it was indeed the case. I'm really interested to know if I missed something. If not, his death is being used as a scare tactic time and time again - based on a rumor of his cause of death.

I truly hope I have not offended anyone with my post - but feel it's necessary to set the record straight since his name comes up fairly often. Maybe someone will set me straight. Most of all, I really hope I have not offended anyone who was close to Daniel Trilli. His glass was amazing, and he still has much respect from me.

His untimely death was very said...and folks should use ventilation, I'm just not sure the two are related.
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Old 2007-08-19, 1:57pm
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To be helpful for everyone here, how about all the peeps that have great ventilation post what, where & how much? Tell us ALL where you got it &/or how you built it & how much it costs? Make a sticky out of it. It would be wonderful useful information for all to be had

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Hi Roseanne,

Here it the post on my ventilation system. http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ht=feed+trough

I believe all the questions above are answered in the posts. If you have any questions just ask. It was very simple to construct with parts at my local hardware store and a handy husband. We are going to add a second NG line once the drywall is up so I can run two torches.

The only picture I do not have is the 8 inch vent cap on the out side of the house. I found that at my local plumbing store.

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I'm still wondering how the chemicals in the glass and metals we use compare in harmfulness to cigarette smoke and smog.

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Old 2007-08-19, 4:52pm
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His untimely death was very said...and folks should use ventilation, I'm just not sure the two are related.
Kimberly, thanks for the clarification.

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Old 2007-08-23, 7:01pm
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I so appreciate the discussion here about safety. In my first lampworking class safety was stressed, but in some of the others it was not even though the classes were taught by nationally recognized glass artist. In two of the classes the instructors opened the doors to let fresh air in after students started to complain about the quality of the air. In one class we were using a hothead and in another one we were using a minor. Most of what I have learned about safety I have learned on LE or other forums. I work in my basement and I am getting ready to seriously upgrade my ventilation system because winter in coming and what works in the summer will not suffice in the winter. I work near the furnace and gas water heater, but I keep I work two feet from an open door, and about four feet away from an open window. I also have fresh air coming in through another window in the far end of the basement. This window is like a wind tunnel because it is between two house. In the window directly in front of my torch I have a small ventilation fan that I got from Wal-Mart. In another window about four feet away from my torch I have a very powerful Hunter ventilation fan. I keep both fans running all of the time when I torch. My propane is outside and I run the hoses in throught the window. When I upgraded from my hothead to the mini cc I order longer hoses so I could put the propane outside. Someone on LE suggested keeping the propane outside. Thank goodness I did because I had a leak and had it been inside it would have been ugly. However, with winter approaching keeping all of the windows and doors open is not such a good idea. So I have been looking a Glasscrafts products and I purchased some galvanized metal. So I will either have a friend (who loves to help me build things) help me build a venting system or I will buy one when it starts to get cold.
Some of you are a bit feisty (lol) but I look at it within the framework of caring and trying to help people take care of themselves. Many of us have home studios and we do the best we can. I do take my health seriously, so even if I have to hire a ventilation specialist, that's what I have to do so that I can rest peacefull and continue to have fun.
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Old 2007-08-23, 9:07pm
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Dawn, I love that! Particularly I like that you vent through the wall rather than the ceiling. I'm currently using an "attic fan in the wall" setup partly for cost reasons and partly because I'm wary of putting holes in the roof of my shed. I have two gable vents, so I get plenty of makeup air, but during the winter it gets COLLLLLD in there as all the heat from my space heaters gets sucked out. I put a makeup air vent on the bench this summer, but I've been still looking for good ventilation options. This seems to be a pretty darn good one!
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Old 2007-08-24, 7:46am
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I so appreciate the discussion here about safety. In my first lampworking class safety was stressed, but in some of the others it was not even though the classes were taught by nationally recognized glass artist. In two of the classes the instructors opened the doors to let fresh air in after students started to complain about the quality of the air. In one class we were using a hothead and in another one we were using a minor. Most of what I have learned about safety I have learned on LE or other forums. I work in my basement and I am getting ready to seriously upgrade my ventilation system because winter in coming and what works in the summer will not suffice in the winter. I work near the furnace and gas water heater, but I keep I work two feet from an open door, and about four feet away from an open window. I also have fresh air coming in through another window in the far end of the basement. This window is like a wind tunnel because it is between two house. In the window directly in front of my torch I have a small ventilation fan that I got from Wal-Mart. In another window about four feet away from my torch I have a very powerful Hunter ventilation fan. I keep both fans running all of the time when I torch. My propane is outside and I run the hoses in throught the window. When I upgraded from my hothead to the mini cc I order longer hoses so I could put the propane outside. Someone on LE suggested keeping the propane outside. Thank goodness I did because I had a leak and had it been inside it would have been ugly. However, with winter approaching keeping all of the windows and doors open is not such a good idea. So I have been looking a Glasscrafts products and I purchased some galvanized metal. So I will either have a friend (who loves to help me build things) help me build a venting system or I will buy one when it starts to get cold.
Some of you are a bit feisty (lol) but I look at it within the framework of caring and trying to help people take care of themselves. Many of us have home studios and we do the best we can. I do take my health seriously, so even if I have to hire a ventilation specialist, that's what I have to do so that I can rest peacefull and continue to have fun.

This is what I 'm talking about. Well Known Bead instructors teaching at studios with no ventilation. We need to stick together and then I bet some systms will go in. I was asked to teach at my local bead shop for at least a year. I kept telling them once they have a system I'll teach well they finally put in a ventilation system which needed to be improved a bit before I used it but it all worked out in the end. They have a nice system now and teaching is a Blast.

Yes, some of us are a bit feisty and your right, it's because we care!


Thanks for your nice post! Dawn
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Dawn, I love that! Particularly I like that you vent through the wall rather than the ceiling. I'm currently using an "attic fan in the wall" setup partly for cost reasons and partly because I'm wary of putting holes in the roof of my shed. I have two gable vents, so I get plenty of makeup air, but during the winter it gets COLLLLLD in there as all the heat from my space heaters gets sucked out. I put a makeup air vent on the bench this summer, but I've been still looking for good ventilation options. This seems to be a pretty darn good one!

Thanks! I am really happy with my new set up. I have to give a big thank you to Mike and Dale for all there help.

I would love to see see your set up when your done

Take care, Dawn
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I've never been to the Gathering but have a question about the classes offered during the event.
Is there any ventilation in the class rooms or demonstration areas?
I pondered going and taking a class....just curious!
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I've never been to the Gathering but have a question about the classes offered during the event.
Is there any ventilation in the class rooms or demonstration areas?
I pondered going and taking a class....just curious!
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Not for the evening open torch, and I was under the impression that most classes are done in the same place. I could be wrong on that though.

It would be extremely hard to set up ventilation on a temporary basis. Frankly though, I'd like them to try. The fumes were quite bad this year with so many people torching.

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Old 2007-08-24, 12:20pm
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Hey Jeff, thanks for the thanks up there. I *so* hesitated to post, it's certainly a sensitive issue...and was a bit worried about folks taking my post the wrong way. I only meant to quash what might possibly be a rumor.

(Didn;t even see it until today when the thread popped up again!).
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