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2010-02-18, 6:21am
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Formerly Kellyhorton
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dragonfly glassworks 96 frit
Instead of Pming the person that made that amazing frit bead, I guess I should have asked here. Do you find it matters/makes a difference on what type of glass base you use for the 96 frit blends (boro vs moretti/reichenbach, etc?) as far as color reactions? I have all 104, and just wondering if I should use other glass for these particular beads to get the best results
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2010-02-18, 6:35am
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Do not use boro except on the boro blend frits! You can use 96 frit on the surface of 104 and Bullseye, but if you plan to encase it, I recommend a 96 base and 96 encasement.
I personally like using all 96 to eliminate one variable in my beads.
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2010-02-18, 7:01am
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FYI, I have had problems encasing some colors (especially purple) with un-leaded 96 clear. So now I use leaded clears when encasing leaded frits.
As far as your original question...Not too sure yet about the color reactions, as I have not experimented enough yet!
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2010-02-18, 7:03am
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I have all 104 and use the 96 frit on my beads with no problem. You have to use it sparingly tho - too much and you will mess with the compatibility - I think it is recommended that the 96 should be 5% or less to be safe - but I regularly use more and mostly encase my beads and have not had any issues so far. When I encase it is with either Moretti Super Clear Xtra Clear 006 or with Aether. As far as color reactions, they occur depending on the base glass - just the same as with all of your glass - and Aether will change the color of some of the reactive silver frits.
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2010-02-18, 7:09am
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I guess I mean, if I wanted to use a clear as a base, rather than encasing does one clear over the other coe of glass make a difference, sorry, should have explained that better, but I do understand what your saying
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2010-02-18, 7:26am
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Most of the furnace glasses aren't 96COE. They can range from like 92-98, so...leaded clears will certainly work better.
Personally, I find that the "warm" colors-reds, oranges, pinks, etc, tend to need a closer match with COE than the blue-green-purple blends do.
If I'm using clear for a base, I usually use my crap moretti bubbly mess stuff, unless I'm using uruboros that day, then I use that clear.
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2010-02-18, 7:27am
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Can you provide a link to the beads you are referring to?
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2010-02-18, 7:29am
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Originally Posted by likes to make glass stuff
Personally, I find that the "warm" colors-reds, oranges, pinks, etc, tend to need a closer match with COE than the blue-green-purple blends do.
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The reason for that is that orange spectrum glass does not use metals for the color and has less forgiveness.
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2010-02-18, 7:31am
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under gallery, frit bead , her bead is beautiful. I did pm her, but I guess mine was just a general question if using this frit one clear or another or one coe or another makes for better reactions. Hope she doesnt mind me pointing it out, its a beautiful bead!!!! very inspirational!!!
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154252
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2010-02-18, 9:42am
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As Judith said, Jester frit is simply Dark Multicolor and Carol used Uroboros clear but you may be able to get a similar reaction with a 104 clear. For a heavy frit application it would be safest to go with Uroboros or another 96 clear. Try using a layer of silver leaf over the clear and under the frit for extra impact.
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2010-02-18, 10:33am
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What Elizabeth said....... Multicolor is really forgiving and beautiful stuff!
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2010-02-18, 1:40pm
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I have some of Dragonfly's frit and I love them. I have been using them with 104 white and clear, but I am going to invest in some 96 glass so I can use more frit and get more of the look that I've seen in other beads.
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