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2016-08-17, 3:57pm
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Silver glass fuming pale colours
Hi, Iīm Sue AKA spiderfire, Other people seem to be able to put silver or silver glass on pale colours without it fuming and discolouring the glass underneath. I have tried encasing and that doesnīt work either. Any tips or tricks would be gratefully received!
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2016-08-17, 5:26pm
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I have not done it myself but I remember some using coke or some other acid to remove unwanted fuming when working with silvered glass.
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2016-08-18, 1:00am
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I thought that was just for removing the dark patches on turquoise.
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2016-08-18, 8:02am
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Maybe a photo?
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2016-08-18, 9:34am
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Which pale colours have you tried? Some colours are more sensitive to silver and fuming than others.
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2016-08-18, 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by spiderfire
Hi, Iīm Sue AKA spiderfire, Other people seem to be able to put silver or silver glass on pale colours without it fuming and discolouring the glass underneath. I have tried encasing and that doesnīt work either. Any tips or tricks would be gratefully received!
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Which silver glass did you use? Most reducing silver glass do fume the base glass especially if it takes a long time to work the bead. Also some silver glasses fume less than others.
ETA: using acid/pickle to remove the fuming effects will also remove the silver glass ones.
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2016-08-21, 11:28am
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I havenīt given up on this - itīs just Iīm having difficulty finding a photo of beads that have silver glass without fuming. I would like to say that I have a lot of beads of mine that I could show to say īthis is what I do not likeĻ and I will post some soon!
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2016-08-21, 12:18pm
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Your beads are what I was hoping to see!
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2016-08-22, 3:29am
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Any chance you can encase the colors you don't want to get fumed with a thin clear then add the silver glass afterward and heat it all back to roundness?
Just a thought.
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2016-08-23, 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Speedslug
Any chance you can encase the colors you don't want to get fumed with a thin clear then add the silver glass afterward and heat it all back to roundness?
Just a thought.
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The silver glass will most likely fume the clear.
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2016-08-23, 12:19pm
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I know with borosilicate colors with a high silver content, when that happens you heat the whole thing with a hot oxidizing flame and burn off the fume. Will that work?
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2016-08-23, 1:54pm
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Thanks Hayley.
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2016-12-06, 4:22pm
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Ok, here are some photos to show what I mean. The beautiful white beads were made by Ekrbeads and the others are mine!
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2016-12-07, 3:29am
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The barrel/tube beads look fine?
The organic one, that's a lot of silver glass to not have it fume the rest, you have to waft it in and out really quick, especially on a bead drizzled in that much. If the lines and dots were raised more they wouldn't fume as much, just do it really quickly.
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2016-12-08, 8:59pm
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Are you sure that the white beads you admire aren't decorated with a reduction glass like iris gold, instead of a silver glass?
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2016-12-08, 9:08pm
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The bottom beads look like the petals are pale blue traNsparent, which doesn't seem to fume as much as white, ivory, etc
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2016-12-12, 11:51pm
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Very true Elieen, I meant to come back and add that in. White fumes really fast.
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Originally Posted by Jeri
Are you sure that the white beads you admire aren't decorated with a reduction glass like iris gold, instead of a silver glass?
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It still is a silver glass though, isn't it? It's just another reduction glass.
I make beads with little dots and/or scrolls, and have used both iris gold or any number of metallic reduction glasses. This can be done with DH silver glass, reichenbach, kugler etc.
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