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Old 2007-12-24, 6:35am
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Default spiral cane?

I have been seeing spiral cane/murrini, mostly in Japanese beads. Anyone have any suggestions how to make one?
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Old 2007-12-24, 8:38am
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Can you give us a link or a photo?
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Old 2007-12-24, 1:47pm
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Old 2007-12-25, 4:49pm
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The only pics I have seen are in the Japanese bead book with a bunch of different Japanese beadmakers and a few 'mericans, not the instructional Japanese book...no luck finding any pictures on line so far...Ms Kneidel from Israel had a couple on Ebay about a month ago too...
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Old 2007-12-25, 8:55pm
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Old 2007-12-26, 12:13am
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There's a bead in the Japanese beadmaking book in which the murrini were twisted, much like you would do with a dot. That may be the effect you are seeing.
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Old 2007-12-27, 6:45am
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No, what I am looking at is not done with that technique.
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Old 2007-12-27, 3:41pm
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I know this technique! It's easier than it looks. I use it for my fish eyes. I remember Ginny and I contributed to a tip/tutorial thread a while ago but I couldn't find it. I found this one, though:

Corina's Starburst Tutorial
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24672

This will show you how to make a basic cane starburst. To make it spiral, just pull a twisted stripy cane instead of a straight stripy cane.

Corina's tutorial shows how to pre-cut the cane into murrina and apply with tweezers. My technique is easier (IMHO, anyhow!). I just melt the very tip of the stripy cane, hold it perpendicular to the mandrel, push it onto the bead where I will want the starburst, then pull away gently - but don't flame-cut! This should make a narrower "neck" between the applied starburst dot and the cane. Let it cool until it's solid, then nip through the neck with nippers (you may be able to use pliers or tweezers, too). Then melt and plunge as usual.

If you flame-cut you'll end up with a little tail that will flop over and give you a directional "scale" look instead of a radial starburst.

Here's an example of my fish eyes. I cap them in clear after plunging, to trap airbubbles. I think it gives them a lot of character.
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I like your fish lips too.
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Those are dead easy - add a blob, then crease it with a knife!
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Old 2007-12-28, 1:00am
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Try this:
http://www.tumbleweedglass.com/cane.html

Attach the cane to the bead, cut it off and pull it out to a point, then heat it until it blends in.

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Old 2007-12-28, 7:19am
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Thank you all for going to the trouble of replying. The spiral I am refering to is a SINGLE line, not several. Maybe I would get a similar result by putting only one stripe on the rod...but I am positive the spiral I am seeing is a built up cane like maybe a version of initial canes... or maybe rolled up lollipop...I'll keep hacking away
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Old 2007-12-28, 9:11pm
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I made the spiral by rolling up an elongated lollipop.
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Old 2007-12-29, 12:50am
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Yes, yes, I'm sure that's it! Thanks for confirming my hunch...now to try that out
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