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Old 2013-10-11, 7:23pm
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I have an Invacare 5. It has always served me well. I was making beads yesterday and the concentrator, after about 3 hours started beeping and then would stop producing. Each time I turned it off and back on it would work for a few mins and then do the same. It was a very hot day. About 90F. The concentrator is in a clean spot. I just moved to this house in August and I torch in the garage. The concentrator felt hot to the touch. Anyone have an idea?
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Here is a link to the manual....

http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.co...e%20manual.pdf
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Old 2013-10-12, 5:01am
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i've used mine up to 95f and humid, no issues.
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Old 2013-10-12, 5:38am
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I read here on LE about a week ago (of course, I can't remembering what thread) that it wasn't good to use a concentrator outside in the heat. That they needed to be indoors in the air conditioning. That was the first time I had heard that .... Could it be true?
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bullshite. they're designed to be used by 90 year old Floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.
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Thanks for the link to the manual Raimond. I'm also on an Invacare5, reconditioned, for several years & it didn't come w/one.

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Old 2013-10-12, 2:46pm
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bullshite. they're designed to be used by 90 year old Floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.
Good to know ...thanks!
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Old 2013-10-12, 6:44pm
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Thank you and I am thrilled to have the manual. Will let you know how I go
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However, they are designed to fill a small bottle in ~2-3 hours and then rest. We put them in a situation they were not designed for and they perform well for us...

A car is designed to reach speeds of 100mph, however, if you drive it slower it will require less repairs...

Fill your K or T tanks to 2000psi everytime and it will not last for long...

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Old 2013-10-12, 7:50pm
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Look at the manual, there may be buildup in the vent or filter.
Constricted air flow causes problems for all sorts of things.
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Old 2013-10-15, 5:18am
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Default I think it was constricted air flow

So I loosed the pipe that went from the torch to see if there was an obstruction, reattached it and ran it just fine the rest of the day.
The day I had problems I was using silver glass so was probably playing with my oxygen dial. Anyway no repeat of the problem! Thank you.
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Wow! What had gotten into the pipe? i have been having trouble, too.
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Old 2013-11-10, 4:05pm
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As far as I could tell Patty nothing? So it ran just fine for the last few weeks and now its doing it again. I took the pipe off. Its still doing it. Im petrified of opening it up. I think I'll sage it, light some incense and invoke the Invacare Gods.
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I so hear ya! I disconnected mine and put a tank on that torch.
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I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.
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I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.
^^ this. I do this with mine.
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i have two that started doing the same thing at the same time. I got all new hoses, fresh propane and found a new Carlisle Mini CC I had stashed away (who me hoard glassy tools??) Now I will re-assemble and see if they still do it.

thanks for the manual Raimond....I needed that!

Will keep you updated!

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I'm using a Devilbiss oxygenator... It's decided to quit on me. .. not sure what to do to get it going again any ideas?
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I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.
now i thought of doing just that...but i've got a good 30 or 40 feet between the heated house and unheated garage...and i think not being able to see the lpm gauge would drive me nuts (i've got a bit of ocd).

does anyone know how long of a hose is too long? i'd imagine you'd lose some psi if it was longer then 25' or so...but that is based on nothing solid, just a hunch.
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Generally, you want the hose to be 12' or shorter. The longer the hose, the more the pressure drops.
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So did we decide that it cant run in the heat. Im still scared to open it. Losthelm, can you write me a tutorial?
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Have you tried running it in the house to see if it does the same thing?
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FOR THE INVACARE 5 If you are so inclined you can take the cover off (just 8 screws along the bottom 4 sides) visible on the back side of the circuit board is 3 lights red yellow green watch these lights as the machine shuts down, they will blink in a code that explaines the problem and is printed right beside the lights. Or send it to me and i,ll fix it for you call me 765-349-4151

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For the devilbiss, if you want to call me we might figure it out 765-349-4151thanks ;david
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bullshite. They're designed to be used by 90 year old floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
Operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.
yes, and do it 24/7 thanks ; david
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i've ran my machines down to 40f (i was pushing it that day) and up to 95f and 98% humid, and they just take it and keep going.
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