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Old 2013-08-20, 3:52am
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Please could someone direct me to the site which has pics of
Beads made with similar colours from different manufacturers
And notes commenting on their characteristics.

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Old 2013-08-20, 4:28am
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http://www.facet-design.com/wp/kleurkaarten/

Do you mean this one?
Miriam Steger's site.

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Old 2013-08-21, 5:37am
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Thank you Darrel, interesting site but not the one I am seeking . It has pictures of five or six simple beads of similar colour from different
Manufacturers, so it's easy to see the subtle differences.
I have found the excellent ColorAddiction site which has lots of good info.
But I know the one I'm after is out there, somewhere.
Anybody?????
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Old 2013-08-21, 5:52am
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Did you look on my website on the pages sorted by colour, like this one: http://www.facet-design.com/wp/kleuren/geelyellow/
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Old 2013-08-21, 6:05am
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http://melanie-graham.blogspot.com/ This one?
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Old 2013-08-21, 8:39am
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Do you mean Kay's site? She has frit on different glasses.

http://www.listen-up.org/kitty/beads/frit/zim.htm
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Old 2013-08-21, 8:47am
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Did you look on my website on the pages sorted by colour, like this one: http://www.facet-design.com/wp/kleuren/geelyellow/
Miriam, on your website, what did you use as a base for the Thompson enamel colors? Great website reference, by the way ~ thanks for all your hard work!


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Did you check the CIM website? On each color page they usually compare with other colors about half way down the page.

http://www.creationismessy.com/color.aspx?id=10
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Old 2013-08-21, 10:14pm
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I used clear as a base for all the beads with Thompson enamels.
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Old 2013-08-21, 10:30pm
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I think you're looking for Kandice Seeber's Site:
http://coloraddictionblog.blogspot.com/
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Old 2013-08-22, 10:19am
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Do you mean Kay's site? She has frit on different glasses.

http://www.listen-up.org/kitty/beads/frit/zim.htm
Huh, interesting.. When I took a lampworking class a few months ago on a hothead, the instructor said overheating ivory will cause it to "swallow" other colors. But on those examples, the colored areas seemed to mostly expand. Can anyone clarify what happens when?
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Old 2013-08-22, 11:50am
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I've never had ivory swallow other colors. The colors either sit nicely on ivory orreact with it, especially on a hothead. Those are my beads pictured and the pictures have not been altered, nor was any special consideration given to them to keep anything from sinking. Maybe with extended heating like I did on the white, but I have seriously not tested that possibility.

Each bead was made by making a spacer bead with the base color, a quick roll in the frit, melt the frit in, then flatten. Exceptions to this are obvious (silver had silver foil on before the frit, reduced is a reduction flame after flattening. Extended heating is when kept the bead in the flame longer than normal, but not boiling the glass. Just giving it time to expand or whatever if it was going to. If I had anything that I would consider sinking, it was with the extended heating.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask.
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Old 2013-08-22, 2:33pm
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Maybe the overreaction is what the instructor meant. ??
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Maybe the overreaction is what the instructor meant. ??
I don't know.. But I did see for myself what she was talking about when I was trying to make a giraffe-colored bead with a white/ivory color and a brown color (sorry I don't know names, it probably goes without saying that I'm new at this and nothing was labeled at the class). The more I worked at it, the more the white expanded between the brown dots and the edges got fuzzy.

Anyways, sorry for the semi-thread jack. Just thought it was interesting that it was different from what happened to my bead.
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It may have very well been sinking into the ivory because you were keeping it in the flame longer than just a quick melt. I personally think this is something that's interesting and will give it a quick test to see (love playing with the mysteries of glass).
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Some stiffer colors do melt into the ivory...or the ivory sucks them in, but it leaves a beautiful ruffly edge where it envelopes the accent color. Try to do a wide band of an opaque blue around the middle, and really heat it up. You should see the blue "sink" and the ivory feather where they meet.
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Old 2013-08-22, 8:37pm
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Yeah, I don't think I'd have minded it in certain other situations, but my giraffe looked like it had a winter coat.
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Old 2013-08-22, 9:54pm
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I tried it with Dk. Brown & Ivory and it did sink in. Took a while though. I'll wait till sometime tomorrow to post pix though because I want to break it in half to see the inside - and it's still too hot. Just add this to one of the other many tests I wish I would have had room for on the chart when I started. It would be interesting to know what colors sink and what don't.
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Old 2013-08-23, 1:56am
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Lol, cool, I'm glad I'm not the only one intrigued by this.. And definitely happy to know I wasn't imagining things!

(And yes, it took me 45 mins or so on the hothead, because I was pulling a bunch of random points on the brown dots to get the giraffe pattern to come out)
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Old 2013-08-23, 4:41am
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Thank you Julie , the CIM comparisons were the ones I was
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