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Old 2013-07-08, 10:57am
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I ordered a hot head torch finally, and I think I am going to order the longer hose from ARTCO. Can I use the bbq tanks that you use on gas grills or do I need to use a special tank from a gas store.
Right now I'm using a torch from Lowes and those small coleman tanks. Which just burns the crap out of the glass, so I'm not gonna torch until the hot head comes in and want to use it the right way.
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Old 2013-07-08, 11:04am
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BBQ tanks are what most of us use. Cheap, easy to carry...
Just be sure to not keep it in the house/garage... Safety first.

The hose can be found on Ebay as well, there was a thread on it last week. Here is one on ebay... Just search this item #350722704941
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Raimond - the hose on ebay is a 5 foot hose. I think I might go for a longer hose, so the tank is not next to me.
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It was just too show you that they are available, I had no idea how long of a hose you would need... do a search and find the length you need.
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Some of those who use a HH and have for a long time have some type of regulator on them too. I don't know the specifics, but I know I've read it here on LE before.

Here is one mention:
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showth...ad#post4117446
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More info:

http://lampworketc.com/forums/showth...ator+hot*+head
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Thanks Eileen, I'll have to look over those.
I do have a question,
Does a longer hose affect the flame on the torch by decreasing the pressure due to a longer hose line? Does that make sense?
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Thanks Eileen, I'll have to look over those.
I do have a question,
Does a longer hose affect the flame on the torch by decreasing the pressure due to a longer hose line? Does that make sense?
No, not at all. The pressure coming fro the tank remains the same. It will just take a few seconds longer to bleed the hose when you are done torching.

You do not need a regulator, and I would buy the hose from Artco. He has the 12 and 20ft lengths.
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Just curious Lisi, have you tried it with and without the 60psi regulator?
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No, I never needed to. I was always told that the torch didn't need one because it is designed to work at full tank pressure. Which is around 125psi, if my memory serves me correctly. Been working with a HH for years and never experienced any problems with using it and without a regulator. Plumbers don't use a regulator with a "plumbing torch" aka Mag torch, so why should I? Is it a matter of safety then?? Now I'm the one that is curious. Who and where did someone insist that this torch must have a regulator??

I would think that knocking the pressure down to 60psi would create an awfully slow melting flame... My HH was pretty hot, I thought. Making small 12mm beads with Efftre, I really didn't see much difference in the time that it took compared to the Mini CC and Bobcat. I even clocked it. Making large 25-30mm round focals, now that would be a little slow. But at least I'm not burning and/or boiling the glass like I do with my Bobcat.
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Lisi, it was someone who did a lot of small sculptural work, was it Holly? She could get more of a pinpoint flame with use of a high pressure regulator.

Boiling glass, ha, not kidding. Still takes me a minute to remember not to put the tips of the rod in the flame, boil city.

Pug, reg tank and hose as others here have suggested. Enjoy your new set-up.
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Nobody ever said it "had to have one"
I only said that some people liked to use one according to what I had read, and gave links for the reasoning behind their decision.
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Okay, so it is confirmed that it is not essential to have one. That's good.

So my suggestion is to everyone who is starting out on a Hothead. Try it out without a regulator first, just for the sake of saving your money. If you think a smaller flame on this torch will be a benefit for you, then purchase the regulator.

On that note, maybe Kinari, Satake, and other high COE glass won't get so soupy if using the regulator at 60psi. I think it does make sense now. But for Effetre, Uroboros, and the somewhat harder to melt Bullseye, you might need the benefit of full tank pressure.
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I'm pretty sure I was the first to try a regulator, I couldn't work on warm days and had major problems with the pressure fluctuating so I got one. It made a world of difference. It's going to depend on a lot of factors whether you'd benefit from one.
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