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Old 2014-06-17, 4:32pm
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Let's talk about renaissance wax.Does anyone use this for a protective coating on their etched beads?
If so do you like it, find it useful? Any comments are welcome.

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Old 2014-06-18, 7:04am
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Thanks Vivian, great thread.

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Old 2014-06-18, 7:15am
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Yeah, that's why I don't use chemical etching stuff. Never have. I bought a tumbler.

BUT somebody please answer the OP question about renaissance wax?

I've just been using a light wax or something like a lip balm to reduce the powdery look from tumbled beads. Is this stuff better/lasts longer?

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Old 2014-06-18, 9:04am
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I have only used Renaissance wax on metal stuff. For etched beads I usually rub a tiny amount of beeswax on just to lose the "powdery" look and achieve a uniform satin finish.
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Old 2014-06-18, 9:11am
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Beeswax is so hard, I haven't really figured out how to use it for anything but running on a saw blade. I'd love to have somebody show me how they do it.
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I just rub my fingers on the beeswax until it gets warm enough to coat the skin on my fingertip, then rub the bead. It doesn't take but a tiny, itty, bitty bit to achieve a nice satin finish. Mine could also be softer as I originally got it from a knitting store, it looks like a deodorant roll up and has a bit of lavender in it as well. I think it's supposed to be for very dry skin.
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Sounds nice. We do have a yarn store on my way in to town, maybe I'll stop & see if they have any of that type, thanks!
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or melt beeswax with some olive oil. then let it set. That's what I use on my etched beads.
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Old 2014-06-18, 1:43pm
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Interesting about the beeswax. Do you find it yellows or that lint sticks to it at all?

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Old 2014-06-18, 5:43pm
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I use renaissance wax on sandblasted beads, but actually prefer Armor All. The wax doesn't seem to take the etch away as thoroughly as I would like. I've been trying some new stuff I bought from Ruth Dobbins of Professional Glass Consultants. It works great and is permanent, but it is too expensive for beads IMHO. Jeri
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I use renaissance wax on sandblasted beads, but actually prefer Armor All. The wax doesn't seem to take the etch away as thoroughly as I would like. I've been trying some new stuff I bought from Ruth Dobbins of Professional Glass Consultants. It works great and is permanent, but it is too expensive for beads IMHO. Jeri
Jeri, do you mind asking, if it is the "Glass Protect" product line?
http://www.etchmaster.com/Merchant2/...ory_Code=ES_GS

Do you need the whole kit or is it only one of the items?
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Old 2014-06-18, 6:51pm
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That's the one! But you need the whole system. I like the result, it's the price I'm not sure is feasible! I haven't tried using some components but not others. I doubt the polymer would adhere properly. Jeri
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Old 2014-06-19, 7:54am
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Thanks Jeri. Do you find the Renaissance wax prevents scratches? That system is interesting but like you said pricey. I spoke with a friend re the beeswax olive oil thing, she said her beads collected lint and smelled funny after a while.

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Old 2014-06-19, 8:02am
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Karen, I have no experience with that combo, but would worry that oil could become rancid. On the other hand, I also don't think any of this prevents scratching except maybe of the most superficial type. I apply the treatment to reduce the frosty surface left by the sandblasting and restore more of the true color. I vary what I use based on the glass, I just like one better than another on certain colors. What do you typically use? Jeri
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Old 2014-06-19, 9:20am
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Thanks for the info Jeri. Someone else mentioned the combo and you are correct, rancid smell. I have just started etching some beads so I am searching for a relatively protective coating and haven't used anything yet. it's amazing the differences different colours react to the etch. The scratches I would be trying to avoid would be like you say superficial and perhaps caused by metal chains ect.

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Old 2014-06-19, 9:32am
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Karen, definitely try the armor all, just wet the glass with it, wait a moment, then wipe it off. Don't let it dry or it gets sticky. I have been using it uneventfully for over ten years. It isn't waterproof, so if you dislike the result, scrub it with dish soap and it will reverse it. There are still some colors I don't like. Such as black and turquoise in the Effetre colors. I would love to see what you are working on. Jeri
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Karen, definitely try the armor all, just wet the glass with it, wait a moment, then wipe it off. Don't let it dry or it gets sticky. I have been using it uneventfully for over ten years. It isn't waterproof, so if you dislike the result, scrub it with dish soap and it will reverse it. There are still some colors I don't like. Such as black and turquoise in the Effetre colors. I would love to see what you are working on. Jeri
Jeri - which product from Armor All is it? They have such a large range of items. Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure it's original protectant. I'm not home, but I looked at Amazon and that looks right. Jeri
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Old 2014-06-19, 10:12am
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Cool about the armour al. I have some of that. Have you ever noticed whether it stains clothes or not?

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Old 2014-06-19, 10:16am
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In my experience, once it's dry it's completely inert. Jeri
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Thanks again Jeri, i'm going to try it.

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I should have mentioned that you should buy a SMALL container, even if it is slightly more per ounce. It goes a really really long way. And now I have double checked, it is the "original protecterant". Keep me posted on what you think. Jeri
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I've used Burt's bee hand salve. Or the cuticle one.. I like the smell and it works ok. Not really sure how long term it is, but it's good for your skin, and wearing it I would think that the natural oils in your skin would replace it in time.
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Thanks Jeri. Will definitely give it a try!
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Cool about the armour al. I have some of that. Have you ever noticed whether it stains clothes or not?

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It's good for leather seats and steering wheels right? I would think it would be ok for clothing, but jay (my guy-works in auto body shop) says yes it will stain ur clothes...
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