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Old 2011-02-10, 1:48pm
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No problem - I had an order that took a while too. I think they got hit with a landslide when the Rod Warmers came in. They are in Washington state, so they have had the weather too, but it should be on your doorstep soon I bet.

I see you're in Tennesee. I'm in SC so we are across the map from them. Have you done any lampworking before?
well I got a kit for christmas. But I took a free class at the local art galery last spring and fell in love. So far everyonr likes my beads but I only do simple things for now. I've seen some realy cool pics on here and i'm like ooh i want to make one of those. someone made one that looked like a fish bowl with a gold fish and sea weed it was so neat i think I'm gonna like this blog
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Old 2011-02-10, 2:05pm
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You might want to check and see if the color or colors you ordered are even in stock.

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Old 2011-02-10, 5:55pm
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I wonder what happened to the transparent Denim blue? I ordered 1 rod as sample last summer and have been wanting to re-order, but it's gone.
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Old 2011-02-10, 6:08pm
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I noticed that too Flonche. I am cataloging and labeling all of my glass and there are several that I have that are not listed at the moment. (frog green, one of my favorites is on of them). There are several more also. I am hoping they are just not up because they didn't get them in the last time. Fingers crossed lol.
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Old 2011-02-10, 6:09pm
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Kristina, that green is cooking in the kiln as we speak. I am eager to see if it turns out the same color as yours.
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Old 2011-02-10, 8:00pm
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Me too Sonja! And I made up some Kitty Cats in colors I got this past order. I can post a pic of the rods and the beads like I did earlier. We'll both plan to post tomorrow.

FLONCHE - I was looking for a very pale blue transparent that they no longer carry... I wonder if they were trials or just colors that got dropped?

AUDRA - let us know when you get your shipment!
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Old 2011-02-10, 9:27pm
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I will let you all know when i get my shipment.And Kristina I love your critter beads would love to learn how to do that some day.I am a verry crafty person I started doing this because I was making dream catchers and buying glass bead is expensive I thought it might be fun to make them and add a more personal touch and save money in the long run too. I amd trying to figure out a way to make a Kokopelli bead for my mom she loves Kokopelli.Apparently when I was a baby Granny (the woman at the orphanage whrer my mom grew up)Gave her a baby blanket with KOkopelli on it so she says it reminds her of me.How sweet I'm so lucky.
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Old 2011-02-11, 6:17am
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I will let you all know when i get my shipment.And Kristina I love your critter beads would love to learn how to do that some day.I am a verry crafty person I started doing this because I was making dream catchers and buying glass bead is expensive I thought it might be fun to make them and add a more personal touch and save money in the long run too. I amd trying to figure out a way to make a Kokopelli bead for my mom she loves Kokopelli.Apparently when I was a baby Granny (the woman at the orphanage whrer my mom grew up)Gave her a baby blanket with KOkopelli on it so she says it reminds her of me.How sweet I'm so lucky.

How neat. Well, I'm sure you know it's the stringer work that makes those neat drawings on glass... I don't know if you need it, but here's the link to the free tutorial on the Devardi site about pulling Stringer:
http://www.devardiglass.com/pullingstringers.htm

You need to be able to pull it in any thickness, and learn to "draw" with it. This tutorial may be a help - I hope so.
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Old 2011-02-11, 6:21am
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Default Devardi Color Data

You know, I was thinking that we don't have a lot of technical info on this Thread. I don't know if it will interest anyone, but I am testing a large lot of colors I just got from Devardi. I would love it if any of you would post the colors you work and list the equipment you use, and state how it went for you. I'm going to post the colors I just worked up as Kitties. I will adjust my images to reflect the actual color of the glass, as close as I can.

If this appeals to you please join in and use the same format and post your data. Be sure to put the glass ID and accurate glass name in the Title Box above the message. That way we can do a search for a glass name or ID and find the results others have had. Devardi is a new glass to the American market, and we are the ones finding out how it works and what it's challenges are. It would be good to post non-biased information about colors.

Do you like this idea? Here are the 5 Kitties I worked up last night. I will post them individually below with their data.


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Old 2011-02-11, 6:34am
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Default Devardi SOP Moonstone White

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
It's a very nice glass to work with. It melts soft and shapes nicely and doesn't devit. It turns a soft opaque after firing.

That's COE 96 Frit melted in and raked, and I had to melt and press the frit with a tool to speed the frit melting in to the surface. The red nose and tail is Transparent Cranberry.

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Old 2011-02-11, 6:39am
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Default Devardi D-148 Opaque Turquoise

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a very pretty Turquoise that doesn't silver up hardly at all. It softens nicely, but the thick rod will crack higher up if you hold it over the flame instead of to the side as you apply it on the mandrel.

It needs to be worked cool and fairly quickly or it starts to devit. It's such a pretty color it's worth the extra effort if you want a true Turquoise. You can see the slight silvering on the left side of the Kitty.


Here it is after I cleaned it with Tarn-X to remove the little tarnishing that started.


Here is a close up of the devit that started. I work these Kitties almost 30 minutes in the flame, so this glass needs quick work and shaping to avoid the eventual devit. It's definately not as bad as some colors that devit almost immediately if you overheat them.
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Old 2011-02-11, 6:42am
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Default Devardi D11-Transparent Cranberry

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a wonderful glass and color. It melts easy and shapes nicely and never devits (at least not on me so far).

It lays down streaks of color as you wrap it. Maybe hotter melting before applying would give a solid color. I adjusted the image to get close to the actual color of the Cherry-Cranberry Red.


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Old 2011-02-11, 6:44am
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Default Devardi D-130 Opaque Lilac

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a nice glass to work. It melted soft and went into itself well. It's a very subdued Lilac color that darken a bit on this Hothead.

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Old 2011-02-11, 6:47am
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Default Devardi D-113 Semi-Opaque Tropical Green

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a very nice and soft glass to work with and no deviting. It lightened up significantly on this Hothead and turned opaque after annealing. I think you can see the original rod color in the picture.


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Old 2011-02-11, 9:14am
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Kristina i can't get over how cute your kitties are
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Old 2011-02-11, 11:06am
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Thank you Audra... it's a fun way to stress glass!
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Old 2011-02-11, 2:29pm
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Kristina where do you get the murrini slices you are using with the lilac kitty i like those floral designs but Devardi dosn't have any like that. Thanks Audra
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Old 2011-02-11, 3:26pm
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Kristina where do you get the murrini slices you are using with the lilac kitty i like those floral designs but Devardi dosn't have any like that. Thanks Audra
Please forgive me - I'm a Graphic Artist by trade and I can't answer a question without images! I even THINK in pictures!

The murrini in the Kitties came from:
http://www.fyrebeadz.com/


The murrini in the Goldfish Aquarium Bead came from:
http://www.loriandkim.com/


These are my two favorite murrini sources at present. Both the COE 96 and the 104 will work with Devardi and other COE 104 glass.

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Old 2011-02-11, 4:26pm
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darn the first one is all sold out i like hers better added her to my fave so i could get some later wish i had known sooner she is having a half off sale. would have been good for me as i am a disabled vetern and have limited funds oh well maby she will have another sate soon
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Old 2011-02-11, 6:05pm
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darn the first one is all sold out i like hers better added her to my fave so i could get some later wish i had known sooner she is having a half off sale. would have been good for me as i am a disabled vetern and have limited funds oh well maby she will have another sate soon
I bet she will restock. And be sure you put your name in the RAOGK (Random Acts Of Glass Kindness) because now and then people gift things to each other that way.

Thank you for service for our country by the way. I am sending you a hug!
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Kristina your little kitties are adorable. I see where you used tarnish-x to remove the tarnishing I will have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip.
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Kristina,

Thanks for the summary of the Devardi glass. It is very helpful. Your kitties are so cute. BTW your critters made me purchase my first Devardi glass after purchasing your tutorial.

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Thank you for service for our country by the way. I am sending you a hug!
you are so sweet thanks
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Thank you for service for our country by the way. I am sending you a hug!
actually i was looking in the wrong spot it was the XL chips that were sold out wouldn't know what to do with those. I did order some of the slices from her for a great price cause of the sale she is running. yea me. thanks for the link. oh ya by the way my order from divardi is schudled to arrive Monday she found the tracking number for me she is so great oh ya do you care if i steel your idea and make a fish bowl bead it was so cute but i didn't want to rip off your idea without asking first. oh and i forgot my mom has a friend that loves tuxedo cats and my mom wants to get her a gift for her b-day can you make those? and how much would you charge for like 3 of them so i could do an earring and necklace set for her.Thanks

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actually i was looking in the wrong spot it was the XL chips that were sold out wouldn't know what to do with those. I did order some of the slices from her for a great price cause of the sale she is running. yea me. thanks for the link. oh ya by the way my order from divardi is schudled to arrive Monday she found the tracking number for me she is so great oh ya do you care if i steel your idea and make a fish bowl bead it was so cute but i didn't want to rip off your idea without asking first. oh and i forgot my mom has a friend that loves tuxedo cats and my mom wants to get her a gift for her b-day can you make those? and how much would you charge for like 3 of them so i could do an earring and necklace set for her.Thanks
I'm so glad you found the ones on sale. Her shipping is high but she if offering half off right now. I will PM you on all the other stuff!
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Kristina,

Thanks for the summary of the Devardi glass. It is very helpful. Your kitties are so cute. BTW your critters made me purchase my first Devardi glass after purchasing your tutorial.

Linda
Thank you for telling me about getting Devardi glass after my Tutorial! Devardi glass is absolutely great for sculpture.

Thank you PAULA! Glad you can use the Tarn-X info. I found it out by accident in desperation one day!


I sure don't want hog this Thread, but if others would like to see the color info I want to share it. Would some of you please tell me if you want the color info here, because I can just post it on my site instead. Please let me know.
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I'm enjoying the "bead porn". Feel free to post away. Angelique

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Thank you for telling me about getting Devardi glass after my Tutorial! Devardi glass is absolutely great for sculpture.

Thank you PAULA! Glad you can use the Tarn-X info. I found it out by accident in desperation one day!


I sure don't want hog this Thread, but if others would like to see the color info I want to share it. Would some of you please tell me if you want the color info here, because I can just post it on my site instead. Please let me know.
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Default Devardi D-147 Opaque Deep Lapis

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a fabulous deep blue color and stays true on the Hothead. It is nice to work and doesn't devit readily.

It must be thoroughly preheated in the Rod Warmer and then carefully introduced to the direct flame and brought to a glow, or it wants to splinter or shock. Once it is flowing it is very nice to use. But beware that the cool rod doesn't get held up over heat or it can crack in the cooler section. The exceptional color is worth the careful handling.

You can see the D-81 Opaque White Cheek Pads starting to devit. It is much more fragile than the SOP Whites that turn opaque with annealing.

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Default Devardi D66b Transparent Dark Violet

TORCH & OXY/FUEL: Hothead with Bulk Propane
ROD WARMER: Yes
COOLING/ANNEALING: Bead Annealing Kiln

ABOUT THIS GLASS:
This is a very dark glass that is nice to work in the flame. It is stiff and I used my brass tool alot to help smooth it into itself like I show in the Tutorials.

I don't know if it will encase without problems to help lighten it up. If I do that test I will add the info. It's a very nice glass for sculptural work since it hold details well and has the depth of a dark transparent for visual dimension.

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Another thing I am interested in is which Devardi glasses play nice together and can be pressed. I am starting some tests using different base colors, and I may post them here or make a page on my site.

These first press tests were done on a base of D113 SOP Tropical Green and Opaque Dark Brown.

I am concerned about hogging this Thread, so please let me know if this info interests you.

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