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2009-04-08, 6:41pm
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need help with ivory blush & purple cream soda
I recently ordered GA Ivory Blush and Purple Cream Soda, and I can't seem to get any color out of either one except yellow and sometimes orange. I've tried encasing them, not encasing them, oxy flame, reducing flame,.. Can anyone give me advice on how to make these work? Thanks.
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2009-04-09, 12:47pm
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Heat, and more heat. Then heat some more.....you get the drift.
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2009-04-09, 12:59pm
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The ivory blush needs to he heated until its clear in order to strike. I generally remix it, then when it is used it will kiln strike. I get nice deep pinks out of it that way.
The purple cream soda seems to stay looking like cream soda, but with some torch settings you will get a surface haze, which I guess is the "purple" part.
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2009-04-09, 4:31pm
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In my experience, the more I work the ivory blush, the better it gets. I always heat the crap out of everything when I make a cane anyway, but it's a perfect color for sculpture in my experience. The more you beat it up, the better it gets. I haven't tried encasing it. I rarely encase anything
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2009-04-09, 7:08pm
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thanks everyone. I'll try again tomorrow.
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2009-04-10, 10:14am
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I am ready to toss that purple cream soda. I've read everything here and more and all I ever get is yellow. It frustrates me, but I keep trying anyhow.
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2009-04-10, 10:31am
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I know the feeling, Tracey -- I've tried everything under the sun and only gotten yellow out of it!!
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2009-04-12, 6:18am
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What torch oxy set up are you guys using?
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2009-04-12, 8:20am
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Tanked O2 and propane with a minor. Got tips? Hope?
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2009-04-12, 9:51am
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No I haven't work this too much. Its been awhile. I was trying to picture whether the color was haze or if it was the color of the glass that you are getting out. Have you tried heating it until it is clear and then striking it in the kiln?
If yellow is the color you are get from striking the glass when the color hasn't struck all the way. I am wondering if you raised your kiln temperature another 25 or 50 degrees if you would get more of a strike.
This was cut and pasted from GA's striking information page.
"As they grow they will create a yellow color. In order of increasing size, the silver crystals will become orange, ruby red, red-purple, purple, blue then green."
Here is a link to the page.
http://www.glassalchemy.com/index.ph...-manual/page-3
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2009-04-12, 11:46am
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I am ready to toss that purple cream soda. I've read everything here and more and all I ever get is yellow. It frustrates me, but I keep trying anyhow.
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Same here!
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2009-04-12, 1:53pm
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Hmm I am going out to the garage. I will pull some out and that purple color I said I would a month ago..... lololol
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2009-04-12, 11:06pm
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Well, this is how purple cream soda did for me... and I struck this pupply AT LEAST 20x since I did not want a dead looking flower .
You DO see the purple haze on the outside of the petals, but I'm pretty darn sure that's as good as it gets. I think there's still a lot of use for this glass... just not the use I put it to .
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2009-04-12, 11:19pm
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The purple is surface haze. You get that by keeping the glass clean while you are working it and then using a reducing flame at the end to get the metals to come to the surface.
For most silver colors
I would do two strikes with to get a surface strike.
Make bead or whatever let cool.
I would use a neutral flame to not "burn out" the metals
Then bathe in reducing flame to get metals to come to surface.
Then let cool again
Then strike lighting softly to get the colors on the metals to bloom!
I didn't get to play today... KIDS and Easter... lolol
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2009-04-13, 4:21am
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I agree it may have a use somewhere, but mine is full of bubbles that I don't care for.
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2009-04-13, 10:55am
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Oh... and btw, the Ivory Blush is GORGEOUS. Kiln striking will get it to go pinker and pinker.
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2009-04-14, 9:37am
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I worked with two small things yesterday with Ivory Blush. It appears to work like Jaspar Red. I don't know (didn't look) what is in it as far as metals.
Jaspar Red will get darker and darker as you work it.
If you reheat it several times it gets darker.
Surface work gave me a pretty blush pink color.
Encased it was lighter blush color.
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2009-04-17, 11:40am
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If either of these colors don't come out the way I want, I leave them in the kiln to ramp up and down the next couple of cycles and it gets better each time.
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2009-04-17, 3:21pm
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Well, there's a thought. I'd sworn off the PCS, but I may try that.
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2009-04-21, 8:31pm
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I made a quick (UGLY!! LOLOL) pendant with Ivory Blush and the new Violet Hue combined. I will stick it in the kiln a couple of times to see what else it does! Might be fun to see!
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2009-05-14, 9:35pm
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If either of these colors don't come out the way I want, I leave them in the kiln to ramp up and down the next couple of cycles and it gets better each time.
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that's a really good idea! I am going to try that with Warm Yellow. I can never get that stuff to strike and have had trouble with Ivory blush too
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2009-05-17, 8:23am
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getting the bead white hot and then holding PCS at 1150 for 45 minutes gets it to strike like this for me
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2009-05-17, 8:50am
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Ohh... nice coloring Paula!!!
I may pop that fugly flower back in the kiln and strike it a few more times to see what happens.... it would be much better if it were that color! I'm assuming that there is no white/black/anyopaque core in your bead right?
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2009-05-18, 7:59am
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no it's just pcs but white as a core works well too!
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