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View Poll Results: Tutorials as kits
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too much work for return of money
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I'd love to see them offered
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Think it's a great Idea but wouldn't buy it
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would think about it if folks asked
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2008-12-06, 3:56pm
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Tutorial's with supplies??
Has anyone thought of doing supplies with their tutorials??
I have been drooling all day over Etsy Wire Wrapping tutorials of all things and there's such a variety of wire needed I was thinking, I wish they'd even have "kits" ready..
On some of your lampworking ones I have wondered about that too becausee of special color's and all, but I figured it would probably be hard to do no???
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2008-12-06, 4:08pm
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Tutorial with supplies?
Why not include supplies. I think that it would be a good idea. For me, I live far away from any suppliers so I cannot zip to my local dealer and purchase what I need to do a tutorial. It would save me a bunch of time.
But I also realize that it would be harder for you too as you would need to mail the supplies to the person and that the overall cost would be more than your normal tutorial so you wouldn't make as much money.
SOLUTION: Why not offer both, Tutorial with supplies and Tutorial w/o supplies.
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2008-12-06, 4:23pm
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They list the supplies (glass) used for the torching tutorials.....
Maybe I'm missing the point of "supplies"....are you wanting to purchase the supplies to complete the project in the tutorial or requesting a list of the supplies used/required for the project????
Sorry to be so dense...
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2008-12-06, 5:04pm
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the whole point of doing a tutorial and selling it as a pdf is so I dont have to bother with shipping etc.. I rewally dont want to have to put a lot of funds up and guess how many people will want a supply kit, order glass, assemble kits, package hem, post them etc etc etc... I doubt I could sell the materials at a break even point compared to suppliers, and have to deal with the labor and risk of loss...... I prefer to do a nice supply list, and let the client choose what they want, how much, what color, etc etc etc...
writting the tutorial itself is a huge undertaking.... I dont want to become a supplier as well, other folks do that far better than I can
Candice
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2008-12-06, 5:30pm
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If there was something unusual or htf needed, then it would be a customer service thing to have some on hand and available (like, maybe in their etsy store along with the tutorial).
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2008-12-06, 5:31pm
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Hey Arlene,
I do sell the supplies for mine in my etsy store. In fact, I have a listing for the tut, plus the supplies at a discounted rate, so folks wouldn't have to go out and get stuff in full sizes just to make a couple of mice...
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2008-12-06, 6:53pm
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When my portrait bead tutorial comes out I will offer a version that is only the file and then one that has the special supplies you need because i know that some people won't want to order from multiple places. Now if I can just get the darn tutorial done
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2008-12-06, 8:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curly Irish Girl
They list the supplies (glass) used for the torching tutorials.....
Maybe I'm missing the point of "supplies"....are you wanting to purchase the supplies to complete the project in the tutorial or requesting a list of the supplies used/required for the project????
Sorry to be so dense...
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I am looking at Buying the tutorial and all the do dad's that go with it. Like 10 inchs of 20g Half Hard what ever. LOL Or if it take copper netting, copper foil, or an unusual color what ever. Does that make sense ???
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2008-12-06, 8:04pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whimzicalities
Hey Arlene,
I do sell the supplies for mine in my etsy store. In fact, I have a listing for the tut, plus the supplies at a discounted rate, so folks wouldn't have to go out and get stuff in full sizes just to make a couple of mice...
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This is part of what made me think about the kit side of it. I didn't necessarily look at on the "lampworking" side of it since yes, that would be harder to put together and sell as a kit. I was looking at it more with your wire works and other's like that.. I can not believe that so far I have gone through 35 pages of tutorials on all sorts of stuff on Etsy. LOL
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2008-12-06, 9:55pm
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Mary Lockwood
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I do see a desire for people to purchase kits. I would purchase a kit myself if it was a new 'craft' or a specific type of project I had never tried before. Kind of a 'get my feet wet without investing $100' type of situation.
I even considered selling jellyfish bead kits in the beginning...for about 3 minutes. LOL I have no problem at all offering a kit that was all the raw materials to make X amount of jellyfish beads along with the tutorial. I just would not want to be drawn into the whole making a bunch of special canes to sell situation and that was what it was starting to look like. People kept asking me if I would just sell the tentacle cane and other canes already made up and include it in a kit with the tutorial. Well, in my heart the whole point of the tutorial was to teach people how to make these things for themselves. It was more than just learning to make jellyfish beads...it was learning glass and how to make it do what you want. If I was doing half the work, it wasn't helping them at all.
Every once in a while if I have a surplus of canes and a deficit of budget I will put some in my etsy shop...but nothing predictable or constant.
Putting JUST raw materials along with a tutorial and selling it as a kit would be something I would very much consider doing if I thought it would help people, mostly I haven't done it because I don't use fancy stuff in my beads. I use pretty much boring materials that most people have, but I do think that some would still like having it all put together. Especially makes it easy to give as a gift.
I don't mind shipping things at all, so that doesn't come into play for me.
There is a wire wrap jewelry tutorial on etsy that if she were selling it as a kit I would have bought it already. As it is...I hate to order silver wire in small amounts because it costs more so I keep telling myself I'm waiting to place a decent sized silver order and then I'll buy the tutorial LOL. Well...that silver order has been waiting for several months now which means that tutorial has been waiting too.
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2008-12-06, 10:05pm
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I teach metalsmithing and it would be easy to work them into tutorials ... I have one in the works that will include a basic equipment kit and a materials kit in addition to the tutorial. I thinks it's easier for me to do it this way, but I imagine it would be a lot harder for the lampworkers to do ...
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2008-12-06, 11:50pm
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lol Mary,
I am the same way, have seen a couple today I really liked but all the wire i seem to have is the "wrong" wire, wrong sized beads etc...
I can see where they'd like to buy cane, but um.. part of that whole thing is to learn to make it your self isn't it?? It's not like Mike Frantz sells it and relying on you for it would be a frusterating thing I would think.
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2008-12-07, 12:04pm
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There are a couple wire tut's on Etsy that include the wire you need. If you search Etsy for "wire tutorial" you get 7-8 pages. Lots of fun stuff.
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2008-12-07, 1:16pm
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Umh...isn't a tut with supplies a kit?
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2008-12-07, 3:41pm
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I just searched Etsy under "wire tutorial" and is gave me "0" results found. Any other ideas? Maybe I just wasn't holding my mouth just right?
Thanks!
Warmly, Marie C
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2008-12-07, 4:38pm
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2008-12-07, 4:45pm
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I love purchasing wire kits, but I imagine that a lampworking kit would be difficult to package and ship, pushing the cost up higher than a typical person would care to spend.
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2008-12-08, 7:50am
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Mary Lockwood
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I would not increase the price of the supplies over what I paid, but there would be added shipping involved. It would basically just be an added incentive to purchase the tutorial, which would be the only part I made any profit on.
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2008-12-08, 7:54am
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Mary Lockwood
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I think the awkward shipping aspect could be skirted a little bit by putting shorter rods on the kit. Instead of putting 12 inch rods in there, put 8 inch rods. That way it would easily and safely all ship with the printed tutorial in a smaller box. So...the glass at cost, the tutorial price and whatever to ship it. It would get someone's feet wet without having to buy a 1/4 pound of everything they might not have had. It would also make a decent gift item.
Personally, I wouldn't buy that because I have so much glass already, but someone who has limited glass stock might find it attractive. Especially if the kit also contained specialty items like cubic zirconias, a couple sheets of silver foil, or copper mesh or whatever else is specific to any particular tutorial.
~~Mary
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2008-12-08, 8:15pm
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In a perfect world both would be offered as in with or without a partial or full kit,JMO.
Karen
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2008-12-08, 8:17pm
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Mary Lockwood
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I agree, Karen. It should be offered both ways.
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2008-12-08, 8:32pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurfy5
When my portrait bead tutorial comes out I will offer a version that is only the file and then one that has the special supplies you need because i know that some people won't want to order from multiple places. Now if I can just get the darn tutorial done 
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2008-12-08, 8:44pm
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I like the idea of adding a supply kit for tutorials. I had thought about adding my fused cuff frames to my etsy for those who don't want to make it but would like to use it. My only problem about a whole kit would be the lampwork bead that I used. I never make the same bead twice and probably could'nt if I tried. I could probably list a kit and post a pic of the lampwork bead with that kit. I have to think about this.
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2008-12-09, 9:44am
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Hmmmmm. I had thought about doing a tutorial but have hesitated because I felt it needed a supply "kit" - maybe my time has come.
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