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Old 2012-05-07, 4:16pm
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No donation, fundraising, or solicitation requests for money or votes even if it is not for you (except if approved first). If I deem it soliciting, it will be deleted. Please note that the AGLF and Beads of Courage are exempt from this.

No self promotion other than in self promotion area (this includes the look at my etsy shop and tell me what you think threads). Just because you are not asking people to buy things, asking them to look at your shop, proofread your shop, give you advice, and so forth are still self promotion and will be deleted.

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Use common sense. Remember that there are people on the other side of the screen. Treat them with respect.

No politics except in the Woodshed. Even if you do not deem it political when you post it, if you know it is going to go in that direction, then do not pot it. Adding the phrase “please keep politics out of this” does not help, all that shows is that you knew in the first place that it was going to be an issue.

If a thread is deleted, do not start another thread about the deleted thread. This is rude to others people on the site as well as to the moderators.

No bumping posts in Garage Sale or Self Promotions.

Treat people with respect. No attacking people or trying to instigate them into a fight. I understand that this is subjective and I have a few moderators in place to help me with my decisions. You may not always agree with the decisions, but please respect them and realize that we have to make choices every day and try to interpret written words. We may not be perfect, but we try our best.

Respect the moderators and our decisions. If you have an issue with something we have decided, then take it up with us privately. We deal with most behavior issues in private, so you may not see consequences for actions, but often there are consequences that you are not seeing.


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You will receive points for different infractions. The infraction points fall off of your profile after a set length of time. You may not accumulate more than 10 points at a time before there are consequences.

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Old 2012-05-07, 4:31pm
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Old 2012-05-07, 4:50pm
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Old 2012-05-07, 4:52pm
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Amy is a full site mod? Can she give herself infraction points? Everything is her fault, afterall.
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Old 2012-05-07, 5:00pm
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Old 2012-05-07, 5:07pm
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Old 2012-05-07, 5:33pm
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Thanks CorriDawn for making LE such a great place for us to share our glass passions.

A quick clarification, if someone shows a bead in the Gallery and says the bead is listed on Etsy or Ebay, is that prohibited as self promotion?

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Old 2012-05-07, 5:34pm
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Can people who are over zealous or try to over use infraction system be given a infraction when they abuse the system?

Never quite felt this type of system was necessary!

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Old 2012-05-07, 5:48pm
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Hope it all works out for the better. Not sure the mods will be able to remain unbiased. JMHO
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Old 2012-05-07, 5:56pm
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Infractions show up in your profile. There is a section that is entitled infractions.

If you feel that you have been given one unfairly, please let me know and I will look and see if I feel it was justified as well. Thhey do fall off of your profile after the allotted time, so even if you do receive one, it is not all bad. This is supposed to stop repeat offenders.
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Old 2012-05-07, 5:57pm
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As far as saying in Show and Tell that they are on etsy or ebay, you can have that in your signature line. You may put it is for sale on etsy or ebay, however if you are starting a new thread in the gallery to show beads you have up, then that is self promotion.

Does that make sense?
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Old 2012-05-07, 6:26pm
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Hope it all works out for the better. Not sure the mods will be able to remain unbiased. JMHO
Agree. Who will moderate the Mods?
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Old 2012-05-07, 6:48pm
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As far as saying in Show and Tell that they are on etsy or ebay, you can have that in your signature line. You may put it is for sale on etsy or ebay, however if you are starting a new thread in the gallery to show beads you have up, then that is self promotion.

Does that make sense?
Perfect sense. Thank you!

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Old 2012-05-07, 7:24pm
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I wish this wasn't necessary. I hope it makes life easier for you Corri. Thanks!
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Old 2012-05-07, 11:38pm
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A quick clarification, if someone shows a bead in the Gallery and says the bead is listed on Etsy or Ebay, is that prohibited as self promotion?

Thanks!

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Old 2012-05-08, 10:58am
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Can you clarify how Self Promotion works in the Tutorials area, please?
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Old 2012-05-08, 11:24am
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No donation, fundraising, or solicitation requests for money or votes even if it is not for you (except if approved first). If I deem it soliciting, it will be deleted. Please note that the AGLF and Beads of Courage are exempt from this.
Please clarify this scenario too...

I have seen numerous times, esp in The Potty, where someone shares a story about a seriously ill pet or other personal tragedy, just wanting to vent and get emotional support. Next thing you know, folks are buying up items from their Etsy shop or sending them funds directly to PayPal to help with the financial burden.

It was not something directly solicited by the OP. Rather just an organic outpouring of care and support by some of the amazing peeps on this forum.

Is that type of thing going to be pulled and deemed an Infraction going forward? (Hoping not!)
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Old 2012-05-09, 1:05am
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Old 2012-05-09, 6:41am
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Old 2012-05-09, 7:16am
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If I am having an issue or problem with a bead can I still ask for advise?


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Hi Sue (and Bootsie)! Yes. That shouldn't be a problem. If you have a general question on a bead, start a post in the tips and techniques area and explain (or reference the bead) your situation. If its more towards HOW someone gets a certain look to a bead, I would pm that member directly.

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Old 2012-05-09, 9:27am
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There should not be self promotion in the tutorials area. If you have a tutorial for sale, you may post it int here, but it is not the place to push the tutorial or to have sales etc. The tutorials section is a reference section.

As far as written words being misinterpreted, I understand that as do my moderators. We are just going to do our best. I realize it is subjective, which is why there is more than just one moderator.

Things really are not changing, these have been the rules all along, they were just never written down. The only thing this is doing, is causing there to be consequences for chronic rule breakers.
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Any chance you can include something about people that sign up for exchanges , receive beads but don't send anything out ever?
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Thank you Corri, I am looking forward to a better experience on le for all of us.

and thank you to the moderators, I know it's a bitch job to do.

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LOL- I can see it now-an increase in those self promotion threads disguised as "oh, this awful esty buyer!"
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No self promotion other than in self promotion area (this includes the look at my etsy shop and tell me what you think threads). Just because you are not asking people to buy things, asking them to look at your shop, proofread your shop, give you advice, and so forth are still self promotion and will be deleted.
SSDD. There is a thread that asks people to go to their Etsy site to evaluate photos. It is in Constructive Criticism. Still there, not deleted. Nothing has changed.
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Any chance you can include something about people that sign up for exchanges , receive beads but don't send anything out ever?
That would be awesome - because I could nominate all 3 of the people who were supposed to send me a goddess bead and never did.
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If the exchange "violators" are HABITUAL offenders, yes, that can definitely be considered. Sometimes life gets in the way of these things and unfortunately glassy things get put on the back-burner.

Thanks for pointing this out!

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Please define habitual - once, twice, three times???? Please be specific. Why? Because if you aren't specific about all of these rules and if you don't adhere to your own rules and enforce them for EVERYONE, EVERY TIME, there will be the perception of favoritism and the feeling that it is easy to get around the rules.
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Please define habitual - once, twice, three times???? Please be specific. Why? Because if you aren't specific about all of these rules and if you don't adhere to your own rules and enforce them for EVERYONE, EVERY TIME, there will be the perception of favoritism and the feeling that it is easy to get around the rules.
In the context regarding the exchanges "HABITUAL" could be 1,2,or 3 times (I'm saying 3+ but I may be being lenient) Its really quite subjective. As I had posted sometimes life-work, family, emergencies get in the way of lampworking and it gets placed on the back burners. Sending a pm to the member in question with a friendly reminder shouldn't upset that member.


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