newbie glass questions

[Anno Lynke]

Hello all
I have a couple questions about different glass
I was looking on line at different glass rods to buy and I am wondering what "messy glass" is? Does it have other colors swirled thru it?

Question 2 What is a seeded hollow tube used for?

And question 3 Filigrana looks like a color already encased in clear.
Is this so and what does it look like when turned into a bead?

thats all for now thanks

[klcbeads]

Since no one else has helped I thought I might answer though I am probably not going to be much help here as I don't have answers to your first two questions. I don't use Messy glass. I think it's a 96 coe and I use 104. I have never used a seeded hollow tube although I think the hollow tubes are used for blowing vessels/shards. The last one however I do know somewhat about. Filigrana is basically an encased rod. When it is used in stringer form as surface decoration, it looks pretty much the same except you can see a little bit of the clear. When melted all the way there is no difference at all between that and any other stringer. The clear can help prevent certain colors from bleeding/spreading. But mostly, I don't use filigrana on a regular basis. I hope someone else can be more helpful to you!!!

[hoboglass]

I can answer question #1:

"Messy" (also called CiM) glass is made in China and imported by a company called Creation is Messy. Strange name: the glass itself isn't messy, in fact it's a lot cleaner than a lot of the Italian glass available. It's available in COE 104 and COE 96. I think the 96 rods are mostly available as odd lots. You can buy it from Frantz and some of the Frantz resellers.

Although I personally don't use the seeded glass, I believe that most folks use it to make beads with lots of tiny microbubbles.

[theglasszone]

Messy glass, as it's know, aka "Creation is Messy", I believe, is 104 unless otherwise noted. It extends the range of colors available to us 104 users...there are some colors available in "Messy" that just don't exist in Moretti/Effetre. Gelly's "Sty Pink" is just one example

Seeded Glass (named so because of the tons of bubbles found within the glass, making it look like it's filled with seeds? or maybe this is the "process" used to get the bubbles in there...?) is a wonderful glass that yields a very "bubble" filled, light and lovely glass product. It can be "shocky", as it's called, and is best either "pre-warmed" or brought slowly into the flame, so it doesn't "shock" and shoot glass all over! There are some wonderful examples of working with seeded glass (come on folks, help me out there) - one artist that comes to mind is "Virginia" - do a search of her stuff and you're sure to find some nice examples! It's not limited to blowing hollows or shards, though - it can be worked into beads as you would with any other glass.

I'll post more when I have time - but this is a start...

DeAnne in CA

[Mark Parkinson]

Originally Posted by Anno Lynke

Hello all
I have a couple questions about different glass
I was looking on line at different glass rods to buy and I am wondering what "messy glass" is? Does it have other colors swirled thru it?

CIM creation is messy is a coe 104 glass that is compatable with moretti some of it is swirled but not all, there are several suppliers here on LE that carry it I use this company http://www.artistryinglass.on.ca/sto...e_1_c_377.html

Question 2 What is a seeded hollow tube used for?

it is used like any other rod as a design element of your bead

And question 3 Filigrana looks like a color already encased in clear.
Is this so and what does it look like when turned into a bead?

http://www.artistryinglass.on.ca/sto...e_1_c_187.htmlyes it is a colour incased in a clear sometimes more than one colour and more than one stripe twisted in a pattern, when used in a bead you get "stands" of colour floating in your bead can be a very rigid look or organic depending how you twist the rod on or if you rake it etc.

thats all for now thanks

hope that helps

[eidyn]

Well I think the others pretty much answered the Q about CIM Messy colors, seeded glass, and what filigrana IS...

I did, however, happen to still have a pic handy of a set I did a year ago that was based around a filigrana bead that I embedded bits of copper between some of the layers. Here it is...the one in the middle is the one I made using filigrana...

Hope that helps!

[ROC]

Originally Posted by theglasszone

Messy glass, as it's know, aka "Creation is Messy", I believe, is 104 unless otherwise noted. It extends the range of colors available to us 104 users...there are some colors available in "Messy" that just don't exist in Moretti/Effetre. Gelly's "Sty Pink" is just one example

And Cirus and Halong Bay. Awesome glass!!

Also, I think there's a bead set with white filigrana in today's Show & Tell.